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ICDEDPPL 11-07-2023 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by xlint89 (Post 4884562)
Some of the new fuel hoses are rated for 15% ethanol.

They`re either E85 friendly or they arent.
Every hose is 15% compatible because that`s just regular gas for most of us.
The evils of ethanol are very exegerated.
As a matter of fact I hate marina no ethanol fuel .It`s 90 octane and it burns up blower engines. Ethanol lowers intake temps, you get higher octane and it`s more forgiving .
I fill up on land and only Top Tier fuel.
If I`m forced to get non ethanol I have to treat it with boostane which is not cheap.


87MirageIntruder 11-08-2023 09:36 AM

The USCG fuel hose is super thick walled that I have seen. I was thinking it must be for either fume permeation prevention or give you a few more seconds of protection in the event of a fire. Maybe both?

articfriends 11-08-2023 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by fbc25el (Post 4884532)
I think one reason they are not approved is so they don't short out on a hot wire.

I started using the non conductive braided teflon /steel braided hose about 8 years ago, it doesnt abraid and cut your fingers once installed, its not the easiest stuff to work with as coating is pretty rugged BUT works well!https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/s...BmYuQ&usqp=CAc

Wally 11-08-2023 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by fbc25el (Post 4884532)
I think one reason they are not approved is so they don't short out on a hot wire.

Actually i was told from a coastie a few years back that one of the reasons is most people will run braided line all the way to the tank and the problem with this is electrical grounding. If you look at a stock fuel system....even if they have metal tubing like mercruiser does from the fuel pump to the carb or efi system....there is always a section of rubber fuel line acting as an isolation. If your main ground wire was to fail, then when you go to start the engine, the electrical load will search for a new grounding source.....so if your braided fuel line is now the next best ground for starting and completes the electrical loop....what do you think will happen when you try and run 600amps on that fuel line? POOF and up in flames the boat goes! :(

getrdunn 11-08-2023 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 4884635)
I started using the non conductive braided teflon /steel braided hose about 8 years ago, it doesnt abraid and cut your fingers once installed, its not the easiest stuff to work with as coating is pretty rugged BUT works well!https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/s...BmYuQ&usqp=CAc

Thats what I ended up with and you’re right. It can be a bit of a fight so to speak but it’s nice. When I first used it I swore my fittings or hose was off like (1/2 AN)

Way less cat whiskers poking fingers!

ICDEDPPL 11-08-2023 03:08 PM

KOOL tools is a must for making AN lines.
I replaced all my lines with Mr Gasket E85 compatible .

https://www.holley.com/brands/mr_gas..._braided_hose/

zz28zz 11-08-2023 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Wally (Post 4884640)
Actually i was told from a coastie a few years back that one of the reasons is most people will run braided line all the way to the tank and the problem with this is electrical grounding. If you look at a stock fuel system....even if they have metal tubing like mercruiser does from the fuel pump to the carb or efi system....there is always a section of rubber fuel line acting as an isolation. If your main ground wire was to fail, then when you go to start the engine, the electrical load will search for a new grounding source.....so if your braided fuel line is now the next best ground for starting and completes the electrical loop....what do you think will happen when you try and run 600amps on that fuel line? POOF and up in flames the boat goes! :(

Heard a similar story abt someones clutch cable that kept breaking. Found eng ground was loose and clutch cable was the next best source for ground. It happens.

SB 11-08-2023 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by zz28zz (Post 4884664)
Heard a similar story abt someones clutch cable that kept breaking. Found eng ground was loose and clutch cable was the next best source for ground. It happens.

A ‘race’ car of mine was arching from braided line next to fuel regulator and arching to the firewall. I was lucky !

underpsi68 11-09-2023 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4884654)
KOOL tools is a must for making AN lines.
I replaced all my lines with Mr Gasket E85 compatible .

https://www.holley.com/brands/mr_gas..._braided_hose/

I question how good that hose is with e85. The manufactrer rates it 3 out if 5 stars for e85??

Curious if you smell gas fumes when stored inside?

I forget what hose I used (black nylon braid) but it leaches fumes. Very annoying. Only hose I will buy going forward will be ptfe lined.

zz28zz 11-09-2023 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by 87MirageIntruder (Post 4884625)
The USCG fuel hose is super thick walled that I have seen. I was thinking it must be for either fume permeation prevention or give you a few more seconds of protection in the event of a fire. Maybe both?

The inner lining of the hose determines it's permeability. The extra wall thickness is how it gets it's A1 fire rating.
The regulations say it must survive 2 1/2 mins of exposure to flame. If the flames haven't been extinguished after 2 1/2 mins of a gasoline fire, you've probably already lost the boat. Also part of the testing requirements say the hose must be exposed to a surface temp of ~1200 degs F within 1 inch of the hose during the flame test.


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https://newboatbuilders.com/pages/33CFR_Fuel.html





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