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Zinger 01-02-2024 02:38 PM

Water pressure relief
 
Hello All,
I'm putting on a -0 IMCO Bravo lower with a freshwater cooled BBC. Is a water pressure relief needed with a freshwater cooled set-up required. If so, what would be recommended before the season starts. Thanks for any input.

Griff 01-02-2024 11:41 PM

Only way to know if one is needed is to have a water pressure gauge hooked up when running at speed.

CheckmateScarab 01-03-2024 04:34 PM

It's always good peace of mind. Do you have an clue what pressures you are seeing now?

I have mine plumbed after the cooler:
Transom pickup -> raw water pump -> oil/power steering cooler -> pressure relief -> tstat housing

I'm using the hardin marine 1/2 NPT relief valve at approx 23psi: part # 128-5000

Diamond Dave 01-03-2024 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by CheckmateScarab (Post 4888049)
It's always good peace of mind. Do you have an clue what pressures you are seeing now?

I have mine plumbed after the cooler:
Transom pickup -> raw water pump -> oil/power steering cooler -> pressure relief -> tstat housing

I'm using the hardin marine 1/2 NPT relief valve at approx 23psi: part # 128-5000

Are you using dash pressure gauge for adjustment?

CheckmateScarab 01-04-2024 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Diamond Dave (Post 4888051)
Are you using dash pressure gauge for adjustment?

I don't ever recall seeing 20+ psi on my dash gauge, so I don't think the relief valve has actually had a chance to work

The valve is stated 7-25psi, so I marked the adjustment knob, put the vice grips on it and found the bottom / top positions and estimated about 23psi. If I remember correctly I did about 1/2 turn from the max position

ICDEDPPL 01-04-2024 05:41 PM

In my experience 1/2" doesnt bleed off much pressure.
I use at minimum 3/4"

Diamond Dave 01-04-2024 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4888142)
In my experience 1/2" doesnt bleed off much pressure.
I use at minimum 3/4"

Where do you have yours plumbed at? I had to replace one of my salty ones. It's right on my strainer which feeds my 3 stage pumps. Not sure if it was even put there for anything other than pressure spikes from my water pickups.

ICDEDPPL 01-05-2024 09:35 AM

I put mine on the bellhousing , shortest run overboard.
Strainer is also a good location.

CheckmateScarab 01-05-2024 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4888142)
In my experience 1/2" doesnt bleed off much pressure.
I use at minimum 3/4"

Which valve do you have? I am assume you are using standard 1-1/4" hose? Perhaps it worth going to 3/4

ICDEDPPL 01-05-2024 07:22 PM

I put these at 30psi
They are a quality piece, some of the other ones I`ve used lock up.

https://www.mcmaster.com/8088K16/

I use -12AN overboard

The lines to my strainers are 1.5"

TeamSaris 01-06-2024 09:24 AM

Need to know what you're making for PSI first.
Pros and Cons to everything- We run the Merc Racing relief valves plumbed after the coolers before the t stat or crossover. Strainer mounted (or anything before the raw pump) ones can suck air if they stick open on first start, fast track to a burnt impeller. On the raceboat we used to cover the through hull with shrinktape to help it not suck air when we craned in. Once the boat was on plane and running, it would blow through the tape and didnt matter. It was better than replacing an impeller right before the race. The Merc Racing ones solved all of that.
The Mercury ones use a 1in outlet hose.

Helmwurst 01-07-2024 10:04 AM

Anyone have a link or pics of how these are plumbed in? I am running 30lb pressure on the gauges. Hoses are plumbed to side of block where the water drains are.

CheckmateScarab 01-07-2024 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Helmwurst (Post 4888268)
Anyone have a link or pics of how these are plumbed in? I am running 30lb pressure on the gauges. Hoses are plumbed to side of block where the water drains are.

As the comment above stated, it's usually recommended to plumb the relief in between the cooler and the engine. You get the most cooling that way, plus the least amount of issues with things such as the strainer

I'm using a 1-1/4" coupler with a 3/4" bung for the relief valve. Same logic applies if using braided cooling lines, I'm not aware of any diagrams but I can scribble one up quick if it's easier to follow

ICDEDPPL 01-08-2024 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Helmwurst (Post 4888268)
Anyone have a link or pics of how these are plumbed in? I am running 30lb pressure on the gauges. Hoses are plumbed to side of block where the water drains are.

The 3/8" water drains?

Helmwurst 01-08-2024 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by CheckmateScarab (Post 4888282)
As the comment above stated, it's usually recommended to plumb the relief in between the cooler and the engine. You get the most cooling that way, plus the least amount of issues with things such as the strainer

I'm using a 1-1/4" coupler with a 3/4" bung for the relief valve. Same logic applies if using braided cooling lines, I'm not aware of any diagrams but I can scribble one up quick if it's easier to follow

I can picture that, but where do you dump it over? Put a thru hull on the side of the hull or on the transom?

Diamond Dave 01-08-2024 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 4888225)
Need to know what you're making for PSI first.
Pros and Cons to everything- We run the Merc Racing relief valves plumbed after the coolers before the t stat or crossover. Strainer mounted (or anything before the raw pump) ones can suck air if they stick open on first start, fast track to a burnt impeller. On the raceboat we used to cover the through hull with shrinktape to help it not suck air when we craned in. Once the boat was on plane and running, it would blow through the tape and didnt matter. It was better than replacing an impeller right before the race. The Merc Racing ones solved all of that.
The Mercury ones use a 1in outlet hose.

Curious your thoughts on what I should have mine adjusted to since they are strainer mounted. Thank you.

TeamSaris 01-08-2024 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Helmwurst (Post 4888308)
I can picture that, but where do you dump it over? Put a thru hull on the side of the hull or on the transom?

Yes

Originally Posted by Diamond Dave (Post 4888312)
Curious your thoughts on what I should have mine adjusted to since they are strainer mounted. Thank you.

30 is fine as long as you have checked it to confirm

Diamond Dave 01-08-2024 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 4888335)
Yes

30 is fine as long as you have checked it to confirm

The valve is adjustable from 7-25 so 25 it is then. I think I set it less than 25 so thank you.

Strainer/ valve: Swirl-Away High Performance Sea Strainers - 1-1/4" NPT HO Competition Dual Strainer Basket Sea Strainer - 10" Tall - CP Performance

Valve: Water Pressure Relief Valve 3/4" NPT - Hardin Marine (hardin-marine.com)

CheckmateScarab 01-08-2024 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Helmwurst (Post 4888308)
I can picture that, but where do you dump it over? Put a thru hull on the side of the hull or on the transom?

I ended up putting mine next to the bilge pump thru-hull on the side by engine vents, anywhere would suffice though

ICDEDPPL 01-08-2024 05:36 PM

That`s where I put mine , before it goes into motor, discharge on the side along with intercooler, bilge pumps, exhaust water .

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...cff4ed690d.jpg
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