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intimid8 02-22-2024 09:29 AM

Water in engine. Rebuilt 700sci
 
Hey there

i had a newly rebuilt 700sci. Put it in boat ran without water for 10 seconds engine ran well.

Put the belt for water pump on, connected hose. After two minutes engine hydro locked.

was shocked.

Coolant reservoir empty.

Opening engine Sunday. Would you think it’s from intake , head gasket, or somewhere else.

pressure tested manifolds all is good. they are brand new hardins.

thank you


intimid8 02-22-2024 09:35 AM

Forgot to mention

water mostly in two cylinders

TomZ 02-22-2024 10:45 AM

Which two cylinders? Rear? Adjacent?

intimid8 02-22-2024 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4891453)
Which two cylinders? Rear? Adjacent?

if I’m looking at engine (belt) it is first two on the right side

F-2 Speedy 02-22-2024 11:34 AM

1 & 3......Id be hunting down the guy who rebuilt it, have you contacted them ? could be head gasket or intake

302Sport 02-22-2024 02:28 PM

Was it fresh water or antifreeze that filled the cylinders? Because you said coolant reservoir was empty, but you tested your manifolds?? The coolant reservoir is antifreeze, and the manifolds are raw water.

I had an engine a couple years ago that would start and run with no hose, but then as soon as a hose was connected it would quit. Ended up being a leaking intercooler.

LakeBoat4 02-22-2024 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by intimid8 (Post 4891432)
Forgot to mention

water mostly in two cylinders

Just went through this same thing at rebuild. The heads are BAD. There is internal corrosion in aluminum BBC heads due to sea water cooling. The heads should have been inspected before working on them. My heads were to the point of trashing them or welding them up around the water passages. It was $1000 to weld them to save them for another year or two.

Long story short the heads/ head gasket is leaking coolant. Weld or replace the heads.



F-2 Speedy 02-22-2024 03:31 PM

LB4 the 700 SCI is closed cooled like the 525 and 600....so no acid water to deal with

LakeBoat4 02-22-2024 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4891493)
LB4 the 700 SCI is closed cooled like the 525 and 600....so no acid water to deal with


Your Right, my mistake. Still the leak points to heads and head gasket issues.

SB 02-22-2024 07:36 PM

Builder or owner put the intake on ?

larose481 02-22-2024 08:46 PM

Did the exchanger get tested?

302Sport 02-22-2024 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by larose481 (Post 4891513)
Did the exchanger get tested?

Exchanger leaking would only mix antifreeze with raw water. Wouldn’t get into the motor.

larose481 02-22-2024 09:24 PM

Is this a closed cooling or open cooling? Running on a hose, well or city water?

intimid8 02-23-2024 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by larose481 (Post 4891515)
Is this a closed cooling or open cooling? Running on a hose, well or city water?

it is a closed cool engine


intimid8 02-23-2024 04:13 AM

The water in the cylinder was from the coolant

didn’t reach oil pan

Brad Christy 02-23-2024 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by intimid8 (Post 4891534)
The water in the cylinder was from the coolant

didn’t reach oil pan

Intimidate,

I'm putting $10 on the head gasket, or maybe cracked cylinder head.

Thanks. Brad.

intimid8 02-23-2024 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4891551)
Intimidate,

I'm putting $10 on the head gasket, or maybe cracked cylinder head.

Thanks. Brad.


I have a feeling you are right.


underpsi68 02-23-2024 10:24 AM

That is a massive leak to hydro lock 2 cylinders in 2 minutes of idle time.

intimid8 02-23-2024 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by underpsi68 (Post 4891586)
That is a massive leak to hydro lock 2 cylinders in 2 minutes of idle time.


I would love to post videos but I can’t seem to do it on this forum

the file type and size

F-2 Speedy 02-23-2024 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by intimid8 (Post 4891591)
I would love to post videos but I can’t seem to do it on this forum

the file type and size

You need to upload them on youtube or equivalent then post the link here.

Ryanw10 02-23-2024 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by underpsi68 (Post 4891586)
That is a massive leak to hydro lock 2 cylinders in 2 minutes of idle time.

I was thinking the same thing, a leak that large would point more towards water from the manifolds?

302Sport 02-23-2024 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Ryanw10 (Post 4891595)
I was thinking the same thing, a leak that large would point more towards water from the manifolds?


These are closed cooled engines, and it was anti-freeze in the cylinders. It can't be the manifolds....

Ryanw10 02-23-2024 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4891596)
These are closed cooled engines, and it was anti-freeze in the cylinders. It can't be the manifolds....

Maybe there is 2 separate issues going on here? Like there was water and antifreeze in the cylinder, so head gasket and manifold issue? I have seen engines run longer than 2 minutes on a blown head gasket.

intimid8 02-23-2024 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Ryanw10 (Post 4891595)
I was thinking the same thing, a leak that large would point more towards water from the manifolds?


manifolds are Hardin and brand new.

I doubt they would be leaking that much straight out the box


the whole point of getting them was to avoid the leaking of cmi’s

F-2 Speedy 02-23-2024 02:16 PM

Do you know what head gaskets were used ?

Griff 02-24-2024 12:50 PM

Head gasket or intake manifold gasket is the most likely cause

F-2 Speedy 02-25-2024 11:26 AM

any update


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