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BigDawgChallenge 03-12-2024 02:04 AM

Oil filter relocation seal
 
I’m having trouble finding this seal. Its like a flat O ring. About 3/16 wide and hi.
Thanks in advance
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underpsi68 03-12-2024 05:35 AM

What are the inside and outside diameters?

G1K 03-12-2024 06:45 AM

It should be the same as the gasket that comes on the (stock size) oil filter.

BillK 03-12-2024 07:33 AM

What engine ? Maybe #8 in the attached:
https://www.marineengine.com/parts/m...100JS/1939_280

Wally 03-12-2024 07:54 AM

get a veneer caliper and get some better measurements of the groove on the adapter. My guess just looking at the pic is you are somewhere in the -334 to -342 range on the o-ring charts
i know this place has the square o-rings, im sure there are other places to get them as well....and it may be a custom size too.
Square O-rings

BigDawgChallenge 03-12-2024 09:58 AM

Its for a 502. Ill get some measurements

BillK 03-12-2024 10:53 AM


BillK 03-12-2024 10:59 AM

I just looked at the picture of your adapter again. Are you sure that is the correct gasket ? Its hard to tell for sure but yours almost looks like it is made for a round "O" Ring ? Does the oring fit into that groove in the adapter ?

BigDawgChallenge 03-12-2024 10:37 PM

Im not sure if it is correct. Its what came out. The grove is square shaped though, not a concave like an O ring

Griff 03-12-2024 11:58 PM

First thing I'd do is compare it to the gasket on your oil filter.
If its not the same, then I'd measure the OD and go to Walmart and find an oil filter with the same dimension gasket.

SB 03-13-2024 03:49 AM

X2. ^^^
But the walmart thing.
WIX site/catalog can see gasket size (and more) on any filter you choose.

Brad Christy 03-13-2024 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by BigDawgChallenge (Post 4892952)
Im not sure if it is correct. Its what came out. The grove is square shaped though, not a concave like an O ring

BigDawg,

I'm not suggesting that an O-ring is what you need, because I have no idea, but....

O-ring grooves are not typically "concave". Parker specs dimensions for O-ring grooves as square, or slightly tapered sides (up to 5° per side), and up to a small fillet where the sides meet the bottom. This applies to both radial and face applications. I machine O-ring grooves all the time, and I have yet to machine any that were concave. O-rings are meant to compress.

That said, I'd think a Viton O-ring of the appropriate size would serve the purpose well enough.

Carry on.

Thanks. Brad.

Brad Christy 03-13-2024 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4892956)
First thing I'd do is compare it to the gasket on your oil filter.
If its not the same, then I'd measure the OD and go to Walmart and find an oil filter with the same dimension gasket.

Griff,

Are you suggesting to remove the gasket from a purchased filter? I guess I never thought about it, but I didn't realize they could be removed. I figured they were affixed somehow.

Thanks. Brad.

TomZ 03-13-2024 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4892961)
Griff,

Are you suggesting to remove the gasket from a purchased filter? I guess I never thought about it, but I didn't realize they could be removed. I figured they were affixed somehow.

Thanks. Brad.

They generally use an interference fit of some sort.

Craney 03-13-2024 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4892961)
Griff,

Are you suggesting to remove the gasket from a purchased filter? I guess I never thought about it, but I didn't realize they could be removed. I figured they were affixed somehow.

Thanks. Brad.

That’s what I did bought a oil filter with the right size gasket that I needed.I just took the old gasket and just matched up.

Griff 03-14-2024 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4892961)
Griff,

Are you suggesting to remove the gasket from a purchased filter? I guess I never thought about it, but I didn't realize they could be removed. I figured they were affixed somehow.

Thanks. Brad.

They actually come out fairly easily. Lots of times when I remove an oil filter, the filter gasket sticks to the filter mount.

Brad Christy 03-15-2024 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4893072)
They actually come out fairly easily. Lots of times when I remove an oil filter, the filter gasket sticks to the filter mount.

Griff,

Hum.... I've obviously never had that happen. I learn something new every day.

Thanks. Brad.

Ryanw10 03-15-2024 06:11 AM

My dad once changed the oil in his car and accidentally left the old filter seal on the housing. Was quite the mess when he started it up. Now I always check to make sure the old seal is still on the old filter

Brad Christy 03-15-2024 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by Ryanw10 (Post 4893080)
My dad once changed the oil in his car and accidentally left the old filter seal on the housing. Was quite the mess when he started it up. Now I always check to make sure the old seal is still on the old filter

Ryan,

My dad taught me to use the oil on the old filter seal to wet the seal on the new filter before installing it. I guess I've got a default failsafe built into my process. :rolleyes: This explains why I didn't know they can come off.

Thanks. Brad.

Griff 03-17-2024 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4893086)
Ryan,

My dad taught me to use the oil on the old filter seal to wet the seal on the new filter before installing it. I guess I've got a default failsafe built into my process. :rolleyes: This explains why I didn't know they can come off.

Thanks. Brad.

I do that too, even though the Mobil 1 filters say you don't have to. Prob 1 out of 5, the gasket still sticks to the mount.

Brad Christy 03-18-2024 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4893318)
I do that too, even though the Mobil 1 filters say you don't have to. Prob 1 out of 5, the gasket still sticks to the mount.


Originally Posted by Ryanw10 (Post 4893080)
My dad once changed the oil in his car and accidentally left the old filter seal on the housing. Was quite the mess when he started it up. Now I always check to make sure the old seal is still on the old filter

Griff,

I was only speaking specifically to the fact that I, in the process of lubricating the seal on the new filter, by default, I confirm there actually IS a seal on the new filter.

Thanks. Brad.


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