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Allan4 12-04-2002 10:28 PM

I was pretty sure these were the type of responses I would get. I'm not so much worried about the small blower, but more the risky cr. I obvoiulsy built this as a n/a motor last year. I kinda hate to crack it open and swap pistons, motor only has about 70 hours on it, trouble free. I might be able to grab a B&M 250, but that would increase my cost, plus I would need to pick up another carb. Or would a single 850 run okay on a 250.

I have never played with blowers, so I appreciate all the help here. So, the 250 would be safer than the 177?? Single 850 is okay??

If I have to break the motor down and lower the cr to be safe on 93octane, then this project is going to wait until next year/more running hours when the motor should be gone thru anyways.

Basically I am looking for about 650hp, or a 130hp gain. Can I safely hit this without risking a meltdown?? Will a 250, single 850 with 3psi be safe and get me close to that 650hp mark??

Cory, not sure on those numbers.

Thanks guys, really appreciate it. I have too much $$ into this motor to break it by going to radical. By the way, cam is a Crane 139731, 226/234 and .598/.610. 112 and .050 gross lift

Allan:D

Whipple Charged 12-05-2002 01:14 AM

I would really be careful, for that power level, that SC is way too small, even if you want too create 1lb. of boost is going to create a large temp. increase and will probably make less power than now until you get to 2-3lbs. of boost. And with that compression, it will probably detonate its head off without race gas or severly retarded spark advance. I would not even mess with it wihout an intercooler and then the SC is too small to overcome the pressure drop. Your asking for trouble with that setup. I really think you need a bigger supercharger and you really need an intercooler to be safe with that much compression.

Thanks,
Dustin

puder 12-05-2002 01:37 AM

i think you got a definative answer there from a fairly reliable source huh???

jdnca1 12-05-2002 08:14 AM

ALLAN;

I think you would need at least a 1050 Dominator if you went the single carb route on a 250 Blower.

Allan4 12-05-2002 02:03 PM

Dustin, thanks for the great advice, same with everyone else. Dustin, is it okay to e-mail you with some more questions??

Cory, the problem is that means more $$ I do not have, need to rethink this thing in light of all the info I am gettng here. Seems to be a pretty consistent "your gonna creat Cheranobal II if you put this thing together". Better regroup (okay, I really don't have a group to "re"). Damn.............now what, I want more power, and don't have the coin to go with a blower, intercooler and and new carb. Any other ideas anyone?? Thanks for th info guys, A4

Back4More 12-05-2002 02:47 PM

Could he just CNC the chambers on the heads to lower the CR?
Then maybe an 8-71 or a Holley420?

puder 12-05-2002 03:02 PM

cam change perhaps???? it might idle like crap but you might make more power.

jdnca1 12-05-2002 03:08 PM

Allan;

Thats easy...150hp shot of N.O.S.;) You'll pick up more power for a lot less $$$. I don't know what ignition or fuel system you have but it is by far the best bang for the buck. All you'll need is a kit, an auxiliary fuel pump (most likely), and a retard box. You'll pick up an instant 500 RPM and when you get off it you'll maintain probably 200 of that. :cool: I'm being serious here, its cheap easy power for any combo, even a stock 502mag bottom end.

Gary Anderson 12-05-2002 04:05 PM

Why are you worried about the money for a blower, intercooler, and carb (you forgot ignition too). After you add another 100+hp, you end up blowing your bravo up.
A couple options,
1) run the 509 till it gets tired, then rebuild it with lower CR pistons and a bigger blower. I'm not sure if an intercooler is really needed with only around 5psi.
2) Try an extension box or higher X dimension. Those could be good for a few mph with no more HP. BTW, what kind of hull are you running?
My $0.02
Gary

Whipple Charged 12-05-2002 06:59 PM

Allan4, go ahead and email, [email protected]

If you don't want to run minimum 100 octane, then I would do what Gary said is run the 509 until it's tired, then put new low compression pistons in, then get a bigger supercharger, where the intercooler can be optional depending on your boost level.

Thanks,
Dustin


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