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What out drive to use with 600 HP?
The new 502 engine is making around 600 HP and about the same in torque.
The boat is a 1998 Cobalt 252 that weighs 4500 lbs dry. Let's say full load and fuel 6,000 lbs. Main use will be congested inland lake, so not many WOT runs. Mostly cruising and some tubing with the kids. If I'm easy on the throttle, will a Bravo ! handle it? (already have a Halo max cooler) https://www.driveshowers.com/ Will an upgraded Bravo I be sufficient? (Already have a Teague billet top cap) Maybe get the steel tower installed. Will an XR or XZ be much better? Don't think I'm anywhere close to needing an IMCO Maybe just keep a spare Bravo I on hand for a quick swap in case of failure? What's your thought? |
I simply would not hole shot it neither catch air without managing throttle... spare bravo 1 are cheap. BUT !
id dont dont use it with respect, one simple week end could be enough to break it! |
Im way more power than you through XR uppers and IMCO bottoms, three yrs no trouble.
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Don’t over prop it. That causes too much throttle for planing (and everywhere else in rpm range) which loads drives way too hard. Single engine boats even more susceptible to this since weight changes (people, fuel) can more likely change the need for a prop swap. What planed fine yesterday may not with more people and fuel on board today. This is a real thing.
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Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4908151)
Don’t over prop it. That causes too much throttle for planing (and everywhere else in rpm range) which loads drives way too hard. Single engine boats even more susceptible to this since weight changes (people, fuel) can more likely change the need for a prop swap. What planed fine yesterday may not with more people and fuel on board today. This is a real thing.
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I have an assortment of props already.
Factory 502 (black engine) came with Mirage Plus 23p. Still have this Have a Mirage plus 25p Bravo I 24p Bravo I 26p Rev 4 22p 4 blades are prob not going to be my friend from what I'm reading. |
XR or Imco SC
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XR will be efficient and fast and handle the power. I crossed 210 hour this weekend and I run my boat very hard. I'm 5500 rpm all the time and always coming out of the water trying to keep up with my friends. I am either idle or full throttle literally. My fluid always looks perfect.
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Thank you
When going from B1 to XR, I assume it will need a HD transom assembly? |
Why do u s a y 4 blades r not gonna b e good for u
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My understanding is more blades is more prop surface area in the water. Less prop slip.
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Originally Posted by xlint89
(Post 4908333)
Thank you
When going from B1 to XR, I assume it will need a HD transom assembly? |
Originally Posted by xlint89
(Post 4908430)
My understanding is more blades is more prop surface area in the water. Less prop slip.
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I would think that the XZ gears would be a help. Less expensive to upgrade and not have a failure than to have the internals polluted with metal.
Have you considered doubling up on drive coolers? This aims a pretty good stream of water a top cap and to a degree, a lot will go down the sides. More is always better! Pretty reasonable price, my son put one on his B3. Observing it at speed there is a chit ton of water splashing around back there. https://www.ebay.com/itm/28221628448...saAug3EALw_wcB |
Originally Posted by BadDog
(Post 4909888)
I would think that the XZ gears would be a help. Less expensive to upgrade and not have a failure than to have the internals polluted with metal.
Have you considered doubling up on drive coolers? This aims a pretty good stream of water a top cap and to a degree, a lot will go down the sides. More is always better! Pretty reasonable price, my son put one on his B3. Observing it at speed there is a chit ton of water splashing around back there. https://www.ebay.com/itm/28221628448...saAug3EALw_wcB I've never seen anything quite like this before. pretty cool. |
It does the same thing functionally as this, possibly not as effectively but for the price. On my Son's B3 he will be using the Halo and this. B3's get hot!
https://imcomarine.com/cal_store/bravo-shower-cap.html |
Originally Posted by Probelegios
(Post 4909858)
Finally you take an answer from someone ? I have the same question.
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Originally Posted by tripps
(Post 4908343)
Why do u s a y 4 blades r not gonna b e good for u
Originally Posted by xlint89
(Post 4908430)
My understanding is more blades is more prop surface area in the water. Less prop slip.
Originally Posted by Markus
(Post 4909868)
At that means more pain for the drive. If the torque is not slipped away, something between propeller blade and connecting rod will be the weakest link.
Less slip means more stress on the drive. More stress on the drive means better chance to break drive components. |
OK, lets try this.
Rebuilt XR or brand new XZ? 4500 lb boat. 502 cu in with 600 HP/ 600 TQ Recreational use with occasional WOT runs. |
I would go with an XZ or even just an X. XR gears may be slightly stronger, but probably have half the longevity of X gears.
New XZ's are not sold anymore. You would have to buy a Bravo X upper and XR lower to make an XZ. |
Originally Posted by Griff
(Post 4914095)
I would go with an XZ or even just an X. XR gears may be slightly stronger, but probably have half the longevity of X gears.
New XZ's are not sold anymore. You would have to buy a Bravo X upper and XR lower to make an XZ. There were a few new XZ's for sale locally. (in the box) |
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