454/425hp mercruiser
#12
There is always an advantage to going with a roller lifter over a flat tappet.
Originally, the idea was that there would be more power for the given lift and duration compared to a flat tappet, but these days, the primary advantage is around keeping the engine together.
The cam that Griff referenced is close copy of the Crane 168731 used in the Merc HP500 502. The 168731 cam did have some issues with reversion so if you go that way, make sure your exhaust is up to the task.
Originally, the idea was that there would be more power for the given lift and duration compared to a flat tappet, but these days, the primary advantage is around keeping the engine together.
The cam that Griff referenced is close copy of the Crane 168731 used in the Merc HP500 502. The 168731 cam did have some issues with reversion so if you go that way, make sure your exhaust is up to the task.
The 168731 is a roller cam
#13
Had to dig around for the HP 500 specs... courtesy of RMBuilder a way's back:
284*/292* @ .004"
222*/230* @ .050"
.576"/.598" valve
110* LSA
105* ICL
115* ECL
That 110* LSA probably didn't help much with the Gils that they originally came with.
Last edited by TomZ; 01-09-2025 at 02:00 PM.
#14
#15
I thought the 731-ish cam that Merc used caused some reversion issues. Maybe I got that one a little wrong?
Had to dig around for the HP 500 specs... courtesy of RMBuilder a way's back:
284*/292* @ .004"
222*/230* @ .050"
.576"/.598" valve
110* LSA
105* ICL
115* ECL
That 110* LSA probably didn't help much with the Gils that they originally came with.
Had to dig around for the HP 500 specs... courtesy of RMBuilder a way's back:
284*/292* @ .004"
222*/230* @ .050"
.576"/.598" valve
110* LSA
105* ICL
115* ECL
That 110* LSA probably didn't help much with the Gils that they originally came with.

#18
I agree with installing new hydraulic roller cam and lifters as Griff has suggested, but just make sure that those Gill Marine exhaust manifolds and tailpipes are a completely dry system especially with that cam being on a 110 or a 112 LSA otherwise you're going to have reversion problems.
If you have a "wet" exhaust system, then you most likely will need a lobe separation angle (LSA) of 114° within the cam specs of the camshaft so as not to revert or have reversion of water back up into the engine.
Also I would stick with the Air-Gap dual plane intake manifolds that you said you already have... They will give you better lower and midrange performance on those 454's especially with a heavier boat like the 37 ft Baja that you have. They would provide great throttle response and work great for your application.
You could even add a phenolic 1" OPEN carburetor spacer to keep the carburetor from getting heat soaked.
and for a hair more performance.
Just my .02 but I think you're on the right track with the advice given by the others.
If you have a "wet" exhaust system, then you most likely will need a lobe separation angle (LSA) of 114° within the cam specs of the camshaft so as not to revert or have reversion of water back up into the engine.
Also I would stick with the Air-Gap dual plane intake manifolds that you said you already have... They will give you better lower and midrange performance on those 454's especially with a heavier boat like the 37 ft Baja that you have. They would provide great throttle response and work great for your application.
You could even add a phenolic 1" OPEN carburetor spacer to keep the carburetor from getting heat soaked.
and for a hair more performance.
Just my .02 but I think you're on the right track with the advice given by the others.
#19
A 168731 won't have reversion issues with full length wet exhaust tails like the ones in the pic on my 525SC. The water mixed into the exhaust about 2" before the rubber hose connection to the exhaust tips.





