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cdaniel525 02-12-2025 09:02 PM

Axle Oiling lifters?
 
Putting together a motor and deciding whether to go, with axle oiling or not.... 598 solid roller setup... machine shop recommended NOT using the axle oiling as they said it dropped the oil pressure at idle significantly to their un-liking. Looking for opinions in a marine motor obviously.
TIA

underpsi68 02-12-2025 09:08 PM

I run crower hips lifters (pressure fed axle) on my street car. No issues with oil pressure. Funny thing is a marine engine builder built the engine years ago, recommended it.

fbc25el 02-13-2025 08:12 AM

I have Howards lifters with the pin oiler no oil pressure problem here.

cig28 02-13-2025 08:36 AM

I also use crower high pressure pin oiling (hippo) lifters with no problems.

cdaniel525 02-13-2025 09:56 AM

cig28 fbc25el underpsi68

Thanks for the replies guys... Let me ask you this as well, what oil pumps are you running?
M77HV
10778
10778C


Machine shop likes 10778C anti cavitation pump which is great for high rpm but known to have lower oil psi at idle, which in conjunction with the slight oil psi loss from the axle oiling is why I'm assuming he said to use lifter w/o it....

Trying to decide what combo I wanna go with, he said I could definitely do the tried and true M77HV, but I wonder if I can get away with the 10778 or 10778c

Thx again

ICDEDPPL 02-13-2025 10:30 AM

What do they think is too low? You don`t need much at idle.
15-18 psi after a hot run isn`t a problem . 10 psi per 1000rpm.
After I intalled spring oilers the pressure dropped maybe 4 psi. I had a high volume pump.
Those flow more oil than lifters

Rookie 02-13-2025 10:39 AM

M77HV
Isky Red Zones (Rebuildable)
Done!

LakeBoat4 02-13-2025 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4920189)
M77HV
Isky Red Zones (Rebuildable)
Done!

Don't need all that in a low REV situation. But going with a solid roller cam and running over 6500 RPM there is really only one choose, T&D or Jesel steel shaft mounted roller lifters. Used the Isky Red Zone (rebuildable) roller lifters. No deal to rebuild at $800 a set but really good stuff.

The T&D rockers have roller needles on the tip roller as well with spring squatter oiling for options. Big $$$ but never had an issue and spin up to 7200 RPM occasionally. Had them rebuild for this total engine rebuild and just finishing that up now. AFR Heads rebuild for the third time and first total rebuild. Can say this combination works with several hundred total hours.They are Teague 1400s. The Melling 77HV pump (as Rookie said) is fine with 20-50W Extreme race oil, the green stuff. You don't need over 15-20psi of oil pressure at idle.

Rookie 02-13-2025 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by LakeBoat4 (Post 4920199)
Don't need all that in a low REV situation. But going with a solid roller cam and running over 6500 RPM there is really only one choose, T&D or Jesel steel shaft mounted roller lifters. Used the Isky Red Zone (rebuildable) roller lifters. No deal to rebuild at $800 a set but really good stuff.

I've rebuilt 4 pairs of Isky Red Zones and never spent over $350/set.
And what are shaft mounted roller lifters?

cig28 02-14-2025 07:37 AM

After a hard run I see 18-22 lbs at idle for a few minutes. I just raise the idle a tad and it’s right back up to 50-60 psi


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