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PQ290Enticer 08-10-2025 09:16 AM

Exhaust gaskets
 
Had to remove the exhaust again and the f'n exhaust gasket appears to have become one with the aluminum heads. Is there something I can apply to the gasket so it doesn't stick as much or at all? Maybe a gasket recommendation that doesn't stick as much? Any reservations on using a 90 degree pneumatic tool with the red scotch pad to remove the gasket? Thanks for your help.

Tartilla 08-10-2025 10:05 AM

We need some pics!!!

Aluminum is soft. Don't use scotch pad rotary tooling on sensitve hasketed surfaces.

I've only ever.used Hi-Temp Red silicone to seal the exh manifolds to the heads. Only need a little bit, or it squishes out and into the port.

You need resonanle.surface qualities to do it, but solves the issues of exh gasket problems.

There are fiber gaskets that will likely work better than the metalic style exh man gaskets.

To clean up the port mating surfece, use a straigt edge block like a file... with some rolled crocus cloth sand paper.

PQ290Enticer 08-10-2025 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Tartilla (Post 4932408)
We need some pics!!!

Aluminum is soft. Don't use scotch pad rotary tooling on sensitve hasketed surfaces.

I've only ever.used Hi-Temp Red silicone to seal the exh manifolds to the heads. Only need a little bit, or it squishes out and into the port.

You need resonanle.surface qualities to do it, but solves the issues of exh gasket problems.

There are fiber gaskets that will likely work better than the metalic style exh man gaskets.

To clean up the port mating surfece, use a straigt edge block like a file... with some rolled crocus cloth sand paper.

The red silicone sounds like what I am after. I have been using gaskets from AFR. The real problem is that I'm in my mid 60's and just can't work inverted for very long anymore. It's all I can do just to get my head down there to see let alone work on it.
Thanks again for your help.

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articfriends 08-10-2025 10:59 AM

I use mr gasket ultra seals or felpro premium. Then I coat both sides with anti seize, I reused my exhaust gaskets on my 272 Baja with blower engine multiple times fwiw

PQ290Enticer 08-10-2025 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 4932411)
I use mr gasket ultra seals or felpro premium. Then I coat both sides with anti seize, I reused my exhaust gaskets on my 272 Baja with blower engine multiple times fwiw

I just bought the Permatex hi temp red. This looks like it is exactly what I was asking for.
I was wondering if you could coat the gaskets with something. Do you think the gaskets I have would release with anti seize applied?

articfriends 08-10-2025 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by PQ290Enticer (Post 4932423)
I just bought the Permatex hi temp red. This looks like it is exactly what I was asking for.
I was wondering if you could coat the gaskets with something. Do you think the gaskets I have would release with anti seize applied?

are you saying put permatex red on your exhaust gaskets AND antiseize? I never use any sealer on exhaust gaskets or surfaces unless I had no gasket at all and there was no other option. I use felpro premium or Mr gasket ultra seals on my dyno too with anti seize on both sides and am.able to reuse them on about 15 engines before they start deteriorating as long as there tightened evenly and not ran loose or leaking.

xlint89 08-10-2025 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 4932448)
are you saying put permatex red on your exhaust gaskets AND antiseize? I never use any sealer on exhaust gaskets or surfaces unless I had no gasket at all and there was no other option. I use felpro premium or Mr gasket ultra seals on my dyno too with anti seize on both sides and am.able to reuse them on about 15 engines before they start deteriorating as long as there tightened evenly and not ran loose or leaking.

Are you using copper (hi temp) anti seize or the regular (silver color) stuff?

I was given Cometic MLS ex gaskets with my engine. Any thoughts on those? Thanks

articfriends 08-12-2025 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by xlint89 (Post 4932453)
Are you using copper (hi temp) anti seize or the regular (silver color) stuff?

I was given Cometic MLS ex gaskets with my engine. Any thoughts on those? Thanks

I use the silver stuff, seems like the copper high temp doesnt work as well when it theoretically should work better. so are your cometic mls exhaust gaskets just pure metal?

BillK 08-12-2025 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by PQ290Enticer (Post 4932403)
Any reservations on using a 90 degree pneumatic tool with the red scotch pad to remove the gasket?

Please do not do that :( I have found that using a single edge razor blade in a holder works good. Most of the time if you get it started under one edge they will come off pretty easily.

Tartilla 08-12-2025 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by BillK (Post 4932550)
Please do not do that :( I have found that using a single edge razor blade in a holder works good. Most of the time if you get it started under one edge they will come off pretty easily.

On aluminum a razor will take off a lot of metal if you get the angle wrong. I've had good luck with well setup metal putty scrapers etc. While also using razors where easy going.

BillK 08-12-2025 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Tartilla (Post 4932570)
On aluminum a razor will take off a lot of metal if you get the angle wrong.

I guess you have to have the feel for it :) I use them all day on aluminum heads. But i am also doing it with the head on the bench in front of me. Makes it a little easier :)

PQ290Enticer 08-12-2025 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by BillK (Post 4932571)
I guess you have to have the feel for it :) I use them all day on aluminum heads. But i am also doing it with the head on the bench in front of me. Makes it a little easier :)

I barely have enough room to get down there and once there my face is so close to the heads I couldn't focus. I had to go to the store for 3.0 readers. Still tough. I worked on them on and off for 3 days to get them clean. I will NOT be using their exhaust gaskets again. Gonna try one of Smittys recommendations.

F-2 Speedy 08-12-2025 03:17 PM

Dont they make an multi layer reusable gasket like the have for headers ?

articfriends 08-12-2025 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4932581)
Dont they make an multi layer reusable gasket like the have for headers ?

You just buy premium felpros or mr gasket ultraseal header gaskets. I coat them with antiseize, reused same set thru multiple rebuilds on my baja. As long as there not ran leaking, they last quite a while, I had stainless marine gen 3 manifolds, Smitty

compedgemarine 08-12-2025 06:21 PM

the whole problem is I HATE anti-seize. seems if I walk with in 5 feet of it I have it all over my hands, shirt, tools, shop floor, bench, etc. I swear you could cover an entire house with a pint bottle of it. other than that it works great.

SB 08-12-2025 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by compedgemarine (Post 4932593)
the whole problem is I HATE anti-seize. seems if I walk with in 5 feet of it I have it all over my hands, shirt, tools, shop floor, bench, etc. I swear you could cover an entire house with a pint bottle of it. other than that it works great.

You ? :)

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xlint89 08-12-2025 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 4932534)
I use the silver stuff, seems like the copper high temp doesnt work as well when it theoretically should work better. so are your cometic mls exhaust gaskets just pure metal?

I would say yes. Although they might have a teflon (silver/gray color) coating on them?

Mine would be used with CMI headers instead of manifolds if that makes a difference?

Thank you

Tartilla 08-13-2025 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by compedgemarine (Post 4932593)
the whole problem is I HATE anti-seize. seems if I walk with in 5 feet of it I have it all over my hands, shirt, tools, shop floor, bench, etc. I swear you could cover an entire house with a pint bottle of it. other than that it works great.

Worse than silicone!!!

articfriends 08-13-2025 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=xlint89;4932615]I would say yes. Although they might have a teflon (silver/gray color) coating on them?

Mine would be used with CMI headers instead of manifolds if that makes a difference?

Thank you[/QUOTE
it makes no difference, as long as the surface is clean and fkat, you put a very thin coat on, i put it on tbe stainless exhauat bolts too so they dint gall, especially in aluminum heads.


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