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78tahiti 03-10-2019 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Gary Anderson (Post 493761)
I set up an 81 38 Scarab a few years ago. Staggered w/ TRS. A lot is going to depend on the weight distribution. I was able to increase the X dimension by over 2 inches by moving some weight around. That gave me al least 5-6 mph and a much nicer ride. Is it a flat deck or raised deck 377? Does it have a full cabin? Are you running the belly tank or did you add saddle tanks?
Gary

What speeds were you seeing by moving the TRS drives up? I am re rigging and would like to move my x dimension as well

14 apache 03-10-2019 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Gary Anderson (Post 493829)
First off, add saddle tanks. The boat rides like a pig on roller skates with the belly tank even half full. Moving the weight back will allow a higher X dimension, higher speeds, and a much better ride. 2 standard 50 gal tanks will fit easily on either side of the motors.
BTW, this and lightening the cabin also completely eliminated the bow rise when getting on plane, allowed the boat to plane at lower speeds, and virtually eliminated the need for tabs.
I set mine up for TRS, but there's another 377 w/o boxes and a relatively high X dimension that I know of. I can check to see what height he's running. There is also a standard "formula" for the amount of rise vs. setback that box manufacturers reccomend. I think Stellings had the rise built into the box.
Clearace for the motors to the deck shouldn't be a problem in the staggered setup. They're pretty deep in there anyway.
Gary

How does lightening the cabin and adding weight to the rear Eliminate bow lift when you plane off? That's backwards. Put weight on the bow will keep the nose down.

getrdunn 03-10-2019 01:23 PM

I'd definately post in the scarab section and even perhaps a boat manufacturer who's been around for a while who would take the time to help you out. That's definately something you don't wanna screw up. Just out of curiosity how far below are they currently. I bet if you call the Saber brothers they will steer you in the right direction if you don't get the help you need here.

F-2 Speedy 03-10-2019 01:33 PM

Thread is from 2003

getrdunn 03-10-2019 01:35 PM

The saddle tanks make sense for the extra weight in effort to raise as much as possible without the concern of prop blow out. Can always experiment with the weight very easy also. My 12 meter was converted from trs to ssm3's without ext boxes and are about 3" below bottom. But completely different animal. Very little weight in the cabin.

getrdunn 03-10-2019 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4676445)
Thread is from 2003

wtf how'd that happen. Oh well hung over today anyway.

78tahiti 03-11-2019 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4676444)
I'd definately post in the scarab section and even perhaps a boat manufacturer who's been around for a while who would take the time to help you out. That's definately something you don't wanna screw up. Just out of curiosity how far below are they currently. I bet if you call the Saber brothers they will steer you in the right direction if you don't get the help you need here.

Any help would be appreciated. Who are the saber brothers and how would I go about contacting them? Thank you for responding

hogie roll 03-11-2019 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4676433)

How does lightening the cabin and adding weight to the rear Eliminate bow lift when you plane off? That's backwards. Put weight on the bow will keep the nose down.

I could see it if you have stern lifting props.

getrdunn 03-11-2019 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by 78tahiti (Post 4676542)
Any help would be appreciated. Who are the saber brothers and how would I go about contacting them? Thank you for responding


www.saberboats.com

Located in Grand Rapids. They're great guys. Tell them John Read recommended to call. I owned there first 28' that is still on the water currently owned by another OSO member. I lived just a couple miles from their original shop on Alpine ave.



78tahiti 03-12-2019 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4676635)



www.saberboats.com

Located in Grand Rapids. They're great guys. Tell them John Read recommended to call. I owned there first 28' that is still on the water currently owned by another OSO member. I lived just a couple miles from their original shop on Alpine ave.



Thank you for your help i will give them a shout!


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