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klaw 02-06-2003 12:36 PM

Desk Top Dyno and Carbed HP500
 
I am staring to play with Desktop dyno and would like to run a stock carbed HP500 through
Can any one point me in a direction so I can get the intake cam and carb specs
from searching on OSO I have come up with
8.75:1 compression
800 holly
crane 169611 cam
I there a web spot I can check this

Ratchet 02-06-2003 01:13 PM

I find that dyno 2000 lets you enter more info & seems to be more accurate than desktop dyno. You can actually order a disk from them with popular cam profiles.

I had both at one time & desktop dyno seemed a little more optomistic.

In any case, they are both fun to mess with.

PROFILE 02-06-2003 01:42 PM

I think you can get the cam specs at www.cranecams.com with the part#.
The hp 500 uses a single plane intake with a 800 cfm holley.
Hope this helps, Jeff

later 02-06-2003 03:33 PM

http://dab7.cranecams.com/SpecCard/D...1=Display+Card

try this
later

blown1500 02-06-2003 04:24 PM

klaw, I'm with Ratchet about Dyno 2000. I had a desktop and got a 2000. I don't even know where the desktop is. The head flows they give you are way off in both versions. There was a thread about cylinder head flow a few weeks ago. Chevy High Performance had several heads tested by the same guy, same machine so they are all measured equally. If you can't find it, post again and I will pull the numbers out of my files for you.
Happy Hunting!!

klaw 02-07-2003 08:56 AM

I am using 2000
I am purchasing 2 carbed HP500 and will be freshing them and will probably put bak as stock fro the reliabiliy issues but just wanted to fool around.

Blown 1500
I found the site for the head flows thanks for the heads up
Profile
Thanks on the manifold info

Brad Perry 02-07-2003 10:55 AM

Could you please post the link.

shawn 02-07-2003 12:42 PM

What is the compression ratio on anHP 500?

klaw 02-07-2003 01:22 PM

Brad
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/41598/

Shawn

I think 8.75:1

shawn 02-07-2003 02:03 PM

Thanks, it is 8.75. I went to the merc site and looked it up

Shawn

Brad Perry 02-07-2003 02:15 PM

Thanks klaw. I can't seem to finad any BBC head that is any more that 290cc port volume. It seems the indexes are screwed up (or I am).

klaw 02-07-2003 02:40 PM

Come on Brad I found one that is 292cc (Just Kidding)
You are correct In the big volune catagories there are none above 290 (292)
I will keep looking

blown1500 02-09-2003 11:54 AM

Klaw, Brad, where are you looking? If you want intake port volumes over 290, look at almost any aftermarket source and you will find up to 400+. But be conservative on a boat, you'll be glad you did!!

HyperBaja 02-09-2003 12:28 PM

Head flow.....my buddy had a motor makinf 450hp, desktop dyno was off 200 hp. Im guessing he didnt enter something correct.

blown1500 02-09-2003 01:51 PM

HyperBaja, the Dyno 2000 has been pretty good for me. We use it to get close on a combination, then go to another program that takes a l o n g time to det up. The info you give the Dyno 2000 program must be correct in each instance and some of the things you must enter require practice to understand. I read the whole manual and all instructions at least twice before I got decent results. I know some very good engine builders who use this program!!

Brad Perry 02-10-2003 08:41 AM

Blown 1500,

The topic at the point that you chimed in was concerning finding head flow files for dyno 2k, not heads in the material sense. I already have them. I'm helping out a buddy with his 502 and dyno 2k...............

Ratchet 02-10-2003 11:45 AM

Vs Dyno
 

Originally posted by blown1500
HyperBaja, the Dyno 2000 has been pretty good for me. We use it to get close on a combination, then go to another program that takes a l o n g time to det up. The info you give the Dyno 2000 program must be correct in each instance and some of the things you must enter require practice to understand. I read the whole manual and all instructions at least twice before I got decent results. I know some very good engine builders who use this program!!
I actually inputted all the information from an engine (11:1 572)we dynoed.................. We did not have the exact head flow data, but used the mfrs numbers listed.

The engine made 932 hp @ 7000, and 739 ft lb @ 5600. If I recall correctly, the program predicted around 940-950 hp (I would say possibly because of the head flow numbers), and 750-760 ft lb of torque, but what was interesting was that the peaks were at the predicted RPMs. Even on the dyno. when we changed the cam timing, it only varied the peaks by 100-200 rpms.

In any case, once you get a baseline where you'd like to be, you can get an idea if you're going in the right direction when you make changes.

Just our expereince.................

Blown1500,

What exhaust combo do you use (on the program) cause this changes alot ? For instance, I seem to see that using small tube headers with mufflers to simulate exhaust manifolds, such as stainless marine.

bago Baja 02-10-2003 12:58 PM

Brad,
I e-mailed chevyhiperformance a few weeks ago and told them that their indexes were screwed up. The info on the big block high volume intake port heads is missing. They told me the site had recently been re-designed and they were still working out some bugs.
Tom

Brad Perry 02-10-2003 01:25 PM

They never even responed to my e-mail....better luck with yours. Maybe we'll have it in a while.

blown1500 02-10-2003 07:17 PM

Brad Perry, if you call the mans. they will usually give you the numbers.
Ratchet, I use the stock manifolds and mufflers for stock Mercruiser, HP manifolds with mufflers for Mercruiser with elbow, and approximate the tubing size for the headers used. Wet exhaust is like mufflers. Hope this helps. Remember, the 2000 is a good tool for changes, just close for absolute numbers.

Ratchet 02-11-2003 12:40 PM


Originally posted by blown1500
Brad Perry, if you call the mans. they will usually give you the numbers.
Ratchet, I use the stock manifolds and mufflers for stock Mercruiser, HP manifolds with mufflers for Mercruiser with elbow, and approximate the tubing size for the headers used. Wet exhaust is like mufflers. Hope this helps. Remember, the 2000 is a good tool for changes, just close for absolute numbers.

Thanks.............sounds similar to what I use.


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