Hydromotive intimidator Quad 4 vs. mirage plus
 

When changing from mirage to Hydro Q 4 should you stay with the same pitch or drop a pitch

You will have to go down in pitch.
Why are yougoing to a 4 blade???
If you can get on plane OK with the Mirage then the Mirage will be faster than the Hydromotive 4 blade. The Hydromotive will give you more transom lift- make sure that you need it.

F&P Boating did a test on a 25 outlaw, which is what I have and changed from mirage plus to Q 4 and gained in almost all areas, including 1.3 mph on top and better handling, I would also keep a mirage +

There was some discussion of this on another thread. Wasn't the Q4 labbed and the mirage+ stock? I haven't read the article.
You are talking $500 for the prop and another $300?? to get it labbed. That's expensive.

Call Hydromotive. They are very helpful and know what they are doing. They also know how their props compare to their competition and will get you the correct pitch / diameter as long as you have some info to give them about your performance with the Mirage. Good luck and let us know how it works for you.

"General" rule of thumb is drop when going from 3 to 4 blades to make up for the increased drag of the 4 blade. Example; if using a 25p Mirage you would go to a 24p Bravo-1, etc.

Make sure you try the 4 blade before you buy it. I tryed a Bravo 4 blade on my Sunsation Rocket, but it gave a lot of stern lift that I was not used to. It felt like the bow was plowing. I did not like the feel of the boat. Lighter boats just seem to be able to get away with the 3 blade very nicely.

I had the same experience as Whiteknuckle on my 260 Powerquest. Too much stern lift with the 4 blade.

Before you buy a Hydomotive you need to know that they break and when they break you can send them back and they will not replace them. I have broken 2 on 2 different boats with stock power. The 1st was a 280 velocity with a 365mag, and the second was a 280 velocity with a 454MPI, they both broke in the same place from the trailing edge not the leading edge. When we sent the prop back with no other damage other than the the obvious break they said we hit something and they could not cover it under warranty.:eek: :hothead:

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SOUND LIKE ALOT OF GOOD FEED BACK BEFORE GOING ALL OUT/ although over the past 25 years , I have never saw a hydro break at the trailing edge (UNLESS IT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY REPAIRED)AND NOT COOLED DOWN PROPERLY/I think they are a good propeller?Darin

Are they even or odd pitch? I would like to trade a mirage 23'' plus for a 22 or 23 intimidator quad 4

I only Hydros I've see break have had the blades thinned out.

You can get a Hydro in any pitch you like. They offer odd and even.

Ron

I think a 23 would suite me, I bump the rev with a 23 mirage +

I have a 23" Hydromotive left hand prop that I am not currently using. Pay shipping both ways and you can try it.

I also have a 24" Hydromotive right hand that you can buy if you like. It has a diameter of 14.75" instead of the standard 15.5" that Hydro normaly uses. This 14.75" prop worked better on my last boat, 22 Scarab, than the larger 15.5" version.

Ron

are you interested in tradeing

I want to keep the 23" Lefty. I was just offering so you could see if the pitch was right.

Ill trade for the 24" right hand 14.75"

What cha got to trade?

PS: I already have a 23" Mirage

Ron

Oh I almost forgot. I also have a left hand 23" Mach Sterndriver that Im not using.

Ron

All I have right now is a couple of 23 Mirage + rh

what were you spinnig on your scarab, what boat,motor,prop,rpm,and speed

Cant really remember exactly but with a modified 7.4 about 425 hp I would spin the 24" Hydro near 5000 rpm and it would almost run 70 on the GPS. The smaller diameter really helped the boat in the accelleration dept. The 15.5 ran about the same speed but felt sluggish. Dropped a ZZ502 in the boat and spun a 27" Mirage Plus just over 5000 rpm for a scary upper 70's ride.

Ron

what do you think the 24 is closest to in a mirage+ pitch?

I woud say the 24 Hydro Q-4 is closer to a 25" Mirage than a 25" Mirage plus. The pluses have a little more cup in the blades and from my experience this makes then seem to have a little more pitch.

Ron

RJCARDINAL did you have the Q4 cut down or did it come that way??

It came that way. The guy at Hydro recommended it to me after I wasnt happy with the standard Q-4 I had purchased.

Ron

do you still have the 24 hydro Im looking for one

Can you make a stock Mirage plus into an ACCLERATOR? How would rpm's compare to a B1 26?

RJ. Off the prop subject & on the zz502 subject.
Did you put it in right out of the crate? No mods?
If so,how has it been & would you recommend it
over a H-P 500?

Yes, someone from this board contacted Hydromotive and was told that the test prop was blueprinted and tweaked to the hilt. From what I understand, Hydromotive, being as honest as they are, was a little upset that Family & Performance Boating Mag did not mention this in the article.

Re: ACCLERATOR DESIGN,BY HOUSTON PROP
 

where would you use a Q iv? I need stern lift the only time I can hit top speen is with a full tank of gas . right now Im running a labbed 23" mirage plus on a 20' wellcraft excalibur with a 7.4 mpi (310 hp)

a friend of mine blew a blade off of a 26 pitch hydro prop[rt hand ], and it was a stock prop, no thinning of the blades at all, the blade came off where it meets the hub, it was a clean break, the metal look like it was crystalized, the boat was a 30 spectre with twin 500's, but hey, anything can break. you might try a bravo 4 blade also.

WOW!

Not one mention of the REV 4 :confused: :confused:

I went from a 23 Mirage to a 22 Q-IV on a 22 Pachanga and loved it. I was running it with a stock 330 hp 7.4. I now have jumped to 525 hp and am looking to sell the 22's have.
But definitely going with a 26 or 27 Q-IV with the new power.

Scott
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with the stock 7.4 did you pick up any thing on the top end? my wellcraft needs more stern lift its seems like its plowing at wot unless I have a full tank of gas

Did dnot pick up, but did not lose. The boat had so much bow lift withthe mirageit was no fun to drive. Could not see when coming on plane. Once I switched to the Q -IV it jumped on plane and midrange was much better. The boat handled like it was on rails compared to the mirage that you had to becarful of in turns or it would blow out.

My wife even enjoys driving it now the the Q-IV

Re: Hydromotive intimidator Quad 4 vs. mirage plus
 

Have a labbed 23Pitch mirage plus that ran 74 on last boat .Now I need a Hydro Q4 for the ift. Anyone need a nice want to trade?