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Outdrive side to side play...Gimbal??...
Just curious about how much left to right slop (by hand) of the outdrive is acceptable and where to look for the fix?...
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Almost none. Check your upper swivel pin/gimbal ring if it's a bravo. VERY common problem on bravos.
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There is only a pinch of movement up & down, but when I push pull side to side it's almost like there's slop in the steering rod area on the inside transom?...Could something have worked loose? I don't see (meaning nothing) how the pin would create this "kind" of slop aside from up & down?...
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Yes, there can be slop in the cable steering, tiller arm to upper pin, or the upper pin to gimbal ring. Check them all out. Also do a search here in the tech section, you'll find it's a common problem with bravos.
Gary |
It is probably the upper swivel pin or the tiller arm or both. Probably both.... Try to tighten the bolt on the tiller arm first you might get lucky. I replaced mine this sping, kinda tricky at 50+mph when the boat is walking and you have 9" of play in the steering. I tried one or the other and couldn't get it tight until I relaced both tiller and pin together.
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Okay I'll do the search. The gimble seems pretty solid itself as does the pin. It just seems the seering cable/tiller or something suddenly developed slack left to right...
Okay I just looked at it again more closely. The tiller arm doesn't move and the drive seems to move without the pin/bushing moving anymore than just a tad bit. I guess that would mean the upper swivel pin (which is square at the bottom) has rounded out some. Does the inside of the gimbal ring itself (squared portion) have a tendency to wear as well?... |
Does the inside of the gimbal ring itself (squared portion) have a tendency to wear as well?... You can try tightening the pinch bolts/nuts at the outside of the outdrive and it may take some of the slack out. Just don't bear down too tight. There is a torque spec for these. If there is too much slack in it, it's not going to take it out. The square in the top of the gimbal ring may have wallowed out. |
I'm pretty convinced now it's the gimbal ring that has rounded out on me. Has anyone ever got this repaired under an extended warranty? or will this be considered normal wear & tear?
www.jrmarine.com (Ron Bender?) has this great deal on welding/sleeving the worn gimbal and/or exchanging for another welded/sleeved unit for a third of the cost of a new one ($750-$800) or used one ($500). Turnaround time is 5-6 days. See http://www.jrmarine.com/products/gimbal_repair.htm for more info. If the warranty won't cover it that's the way I'm going.... |
Warranty will not cover a worn gimbal ring. I just had mine replaced. $$ Ouch! :(
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Yeah I just found that out today. I'm going to go with JRMarine for the repair. See the websites listed above. Much cheaper option than $750+....
Also as a note of interest. I found out when checking those external nuts for the c-clamp and proper torque, they're supposed to be checked for torque every 100 hours or so. They are spec'd at 55 ft lbs and the proper way to do it is first to "loosen" them up THEN torque them up to 55 ft lbs. Otherwise you will get an inaccurate torque value. Doing this every 100 hours will help prevent premature gimbal wear especially if you run mostly in the rough.... |
Well I went out and re-torque'd the c-clamp and tightened the steering lever nut/bolt and almost all of the slop disappeared. There's probably 1/2" of play left and I probably could torque a little extra to take that out. I'll re-check after next use. I will still eventually have the gimbal worked, but now it's not so urgent as originally thought and I've bought some time to carry me over thru the next couple of local events.
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Does anybody know if the previous post on this apply to TRS? I seem sto have a little bit more slop than I would like....and the handling feels like its starting to get squirrley at above 68 mph....
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formulaF302 I didn't pay it any mind until after discovering the slop but I was experiencing a little more "waffling" both in the no-wake zone and my last run offshore. I'm just glad I caught it when I did.....
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formulaF302
The TRS is a much more solid gimbal and ring. There were 3 designs to the upper swivel pin. The splined version has an allen head bolt that holds it in place as well as a plug in the bottom of the swivel pin. These almost NEVER fail. In fact, they can be almost impossible to disassemble. The square pin on the later TRS have a U bolt that tightens the ring around the pin. These can loosen, although I've never seen one round out like a bravo does. Try tightening it if you have this style. The steering arm end of the pin can be splined or square too. Again, the earlier splined very rarely loosen. You can probably check that for play by looking through the transom cutout. I would check the steering cable as the most likely source. Gary |
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