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paulr 12-27-2003 01:30 AM

1977 30' Scarab Hull Stability
 
Hello,
I had previously been offered a Fountain 10 Meter hull for around $13.5k and was considering it, but have recently came across a 1977 30' Scarab with hull bracings in the $2-4k range. I previously had a 88 30' scarab, and had it in up to 4' seas, but nothing bigger. I was wondering if either of these boats (Especially the 30' scarab, due to the price) could handle bigger waters - I live in Southern Florida and would like the posibility of going to the Keys / Tortugas / Bahamas - These waters can get rough - my first Scarab was a DEA reclaimed boat, so I know that these boats can go in open water, but I don't want to be calling the coastguard. My other concern (posted several weeks ago) was hitting 100mph. I know the fountain will, but i am not sure about the 77 Scarab. I guess 85 would be good enough if it can't, considering the low price. If you suggest other hulls, don't bother suggesting over 34' because I can't accomodate that length. Thanks for any advice,
Paul

formula31 12-27-2003 10:39 AM

The 30 scarabs are tanks and if structurally sound (no stringer or transom rot) will handle any seas. I think the 100 mph is not going to be easy on that boat, if even possible.

Reed Jensen 12-27-2003 11:06 AM

I can remember boating in a 30' scarab back in the seventies. This boat had trs drives and I think that was the big limiting factor on the speed. That boat would only go about 75 mph with twin 454's . I can remember that the boat handled well in tight turns with the bow trimmed down. But whether you could make it go faster, I don't know. Good luck.

puder 12-27-2003 02:13 PM

100 not a chance in hell. maybe with massive HP but hittinga 100 was NEVER considered by the designers of that hull.

mcollinstn 12-27-2003 05:07 PM

The 10 meter Fountain will also take BIG hp to see 100.

Neither the Scarab hull or the Fountain hull (that you have mentioned) is a good platform to build a 100mph boat.

Either hull will make a fine boat but you need to have a professional take a look at them to determine if there is any evidence of rot or structural issues. You do NOT want to buy a hull and then have to pay twice again to have it made sound.

30' vee hull Scarab or Fountain? Either will make the Bahamas runs in mild conditions. You don't want to be in a 47'er in bad conditions.

Speed? Crate motor 450hp 502's and Bravo drives will push you around 67 to 77 in those hulls, with the Fountain being lighter and thus faster.

Lee 12-27-2003 05:13 PM

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This 30' Wellcraft Scarab runs 100+MPH
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lucky strike 12-27-2003 06:32 PM

Fountain is a much better built boat. I have had both, an old fountain and an old scarab years ago. Can't compare the two. Fountain is much faster with equal power. A Fountain back then was hand laid in the mold. A Scarab was what they called a chopper gun boat, sprayed in the mold. Quite a difference. Fountain is my vote. Just my $.02

LS

lucky strike 12-27-2003 06:36 PM

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10 Meter Fountain

lucky strike 12-27-2003 06:36 PM

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30' Scarab II

puder 12-27-2003 10:15 PM

not saying it won't go 100, with enough HP you can make a sail boat hit 100. but i'd think think there are some much better hulls to start with if your looking for the century mark.


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