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Fightclub 01-02-2004 09:21 PM

New To Boating And Need Some Help
 
I am a 2nd year boater. I have a 1990 Mach 1 Endeavor 29' twin 7.4's and Bravo one drives. The boat is in great mechanical shape but has bad colors. I am redoing the interior now and would make it faster. I need a recommendation for a S.E. Michigan mechanic or local expert to help me out, specifically to install new guages, controls and some high performance parts.

I would prefer to use a recommended individual and not go to a local marine shop. I have the boat in a heated warehouse located in St Clair Shores can anyone help?

Even more important should I spend money on this boat or start new with a different boat?

Help Needed

Brad

Spine Tingler 01-02-2004 09:46 PM

;) my choice would be tyler crocket marine in mich., check the tech tips section of hotboat. 810-324-2720

Fightclub 01-03-2004 11:07 PM

I still need a S.E. Michigan mechanic to help with my redo, can anyone make a recomendation? Also does anyone have an opinion on spending $ on this boat? My goal is to have a good looking boat that does around 75 across the water.

Brad


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mpally 01-04-2004 12:04 AM

That boat is relatively heavy and not a speedster. 75 is probably possible, but it will take quite a bit of hp. There is not a whole lot you can do to the 454's unless they are the 454 mags. The internals just aren't strong enough. You may be better off going with another boat, but it all depends on your circumstance. If you like the boat, go for it. If you really aren't that impressed with it, I wouldn't put that much more $$$ into it. I am not sure that you will be able to recoup your $$$ out of it if you sell it.

Fightclub 01-04-2004 09:59 AM

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I agree its a heavy one! It has the 454's but not sure if they are mags. I am going to complete the interior - guages - controls and keep it as a pleasure boat for the family. "see picture attached"

What manufacture would be a good start for a true offshore that will run in the 70's to 80's reliable - safe and easy to maintain? What should I plan on investing? I have some mechanical skill to do the work just not a lot of time to get it done.

Thank you for the opinion!

MACDAD260 01-04-2004 06:25 PM

Nice looking boat! Very similiar looking to a 29' Powerquest. A friend has one of those with 454 Mags and it does about 73. Something to give you a comparison. Good luck. :cool:

mcraymond3 01-04-2004 07:54 PM

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A friend of mine is selling his P-29 Scarab with twin 350's and it will do 75-78. It is a 1996 and is in very good condition. It is a 29ft boat, he wants 53k. call Brent if interested at 910-265-8407.

bford1 01-05-2004 04:51 PM

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The good and bad news. (IMO for what it's worth).

Good - I don't know what it weighs but that boat can't be that heavy. It has a molded in swim platform that is about 1.5' of your 29' length. So, it's not really that big and two big blocks ought to motivate it pretty well. I don't think it would take that more than 400 hp for your boat to see 70.

Bad - Your engines are most likely not Magnums.

Good - Even if they're not Magnums you can reliably get 400-500 hp out of them. It what you want to spend. Mine started life as 330hp 454s. $20,000 later they are 540hp blown 454s. My 357 Formula (37' with swim platform) will do 76 mph.

Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?

bford1 01-05-2004 04:54 PM

I forgot to ask. How fast is it now? Does it have two 330 hp 7.4s (454)?

Nice looking boat.

Waterfoul 01-05-2004 04:58 PM

cams, exhaust, intake, and carbs would be a good place to start if you want to modify your 330's. Tyler Crockett offers "packages" for nearly every Merc motor. Call him.

Cord 01-05-2004 05:04 PM


Originally posted by mpally
That boat is relatively heavy and not a speedster. 75 is probably possible, but it will take quite a bit of hp. There is not a whole lot you can do to the 454's unless they are the 454 mags. The internals just aren't strong enough. You may be better off going with another boat, but it all depends on your circumstance. If you like the boat, go for it. If you really aren't that impressed with it, I wouldn't put that much more $$$ into it. I am not sure that you will be able to recoup your $$$ out of it if you sell it.

I would have to agree. Only if you really love the boat should you look into the upgrades. Chances are that the future buyer will not care/know enough about them for you to see a return on the investment.

Fightclub 01-05-2004 07:22 PM

bford1


It has the 330 HP

The boat runs 62 MPH on GPS in 6" chop and a head wind. Flat water it's around 57. I have been in 2' chop on Lk St Clair and can be comfortable around 45 MPH.

I have decided to do the interior add some graphics and keep it around.

In the fall I will start looking for a new boat, one more year with this one getting the experience is a good thing.

NEXT YEAR!!! I hope to play with the big boys!

Whiteknuckle 01-06-2004 07:05 AM

Hey, that looks like a nice boat. To have some accessories installed or some up grades, give Sparky a call at Vicious Marine 586-598-4077. His shop is on Russo Highway, ( Hall Road) accross the street from the Selfridge Museum. Your boat seems to be a little slow. You need to determine if your engines are pulling the correct RPM and if you are trimming the boat correctly. Also, there is a great amount of info available on the site about modifing the 330 HP engines, or you could have it done by a pro like Tyler Crockett like was already mentioned. Don't give up on that boat so easy!

Ratchet 01-06-2004 08:08 AM

Not just to throw another name out there, but Lenny at Milennyum Marine is a good guy to deal with & a personal friend. I tend not to make recommendations unless I am confident in someone's work, but I have no problem recommending him, and his facility. He'll work with you to find a good package for you. The shop is at located on Jefferson, south of Crocker on the left - the number is 586-468-7361.

bford1 01-06-2004 11:59 AM

Brad -

If you're going to search for a new boat in a year I wouldn't touch the engines. Keep it reliable by keeping it stock. If you spend $$$ on the engines now you won't get it back when you sell it. Moreover, engine (and other) mods tend to cost about twice as much as you plan and take 2-5 times longer than expected. Unless you're keeping the boat long term I'd keep it stock. 62 mph isn't too shabby.

dyno 01-06-2004 12:06 PM

Run it!!Just like it is!!!

Fightclub 01-06-2004 08:00 PM

Thanks For All The Help
 
All of you have been great! I gonna keep the boat run it and have some fun... With this much knowledge in one place I going to have to upgrade my membership...

Thanks

Waterfoul 01-06-2004 08:40 PM

Brad, I just noticed your from A2. Love that town. Was at Michigan from 87-90. Go Blue!!

HOUSTONPROP 01-13-2004 12:00 AM

first of all welcome to the site as far as motors ,the guy's and even ladys know alot more about motors than I do,But when you get down to propellers I will be willing to give you as much info on props as I can,Let meknow if we can help in the future,WELCOME ABOARD.
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