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cooltoys61 04-04-2004 07:47 PM

high volume water sep/filter??prochargr
 
Does that mean my stock Merc 454 mag stuff with a good filter? I'm running aeromotive pumps and will be making about 550-600HP with a carbed procharger set-up.The inputs are 1/4" NPT,what's the best way to go from #10 AN hose coming out of the pump to two 1/4" NPTs?Some type of fuel rail?Then it's back into one #10 into the regulator, then out in #6s to the carb box.

cooltoys61 04-04-2004 10:11 PM

anyone,anyone??

tomcat 04-05-2004 07:00 AM

I don't know if the Merc one is good enough, but if you have a fuel pressure gauge you can see for yourself. There are some pictures on our website that show NEVRENUFF's Procharger install. He used a big Keith Eikhart fuel filter with his Aeromotive pump.

www.rtechperformance.com.

Biggus 04-05-2004 08:00 AM

The stock Merc water separator will be too restrictive. Go with the Keith Eickert unit. It's a work of art!

cooltoys61 04-05-2004 08:40 AM

Are you talking about the one with the FRAM filter on it?
I was going to use 2 lines in and 2 out on the Merc one with a good filter.??Who carries the K.E. stuff?

cooltoys61 04-05-2004 08:51 AM

It's cutting it a little close but seems like if one 1/4 line was enough for 365HP then 2 should handle 600?As long as my filter is free enough. Can I use the big fram filters on my Merc stuff? My pump is a little overkill for the power I'll make so I was hoping it would overcome a little restriction.I'll have more in plumbing than the filter housing by running tees etc.I may try it and watch the fuel press guage,,,hell I don't know

cooltoys61 04-05-2004 09:03 AM

Whoops,that big orange thing is the oil filter huh?Wish I could take that back:(

sleeker 04-05-2004 04:55 PM

my procharged hp 500 with aeromotive pump has the large hight flow filter housing that cp performance or eddie marine sells it has 1/2 npt in and out and takes a fram 5062m high flow filter which wont screw onto your housing.i would get that set up thats all you need.not as fancy as the KE set up but less $.

mcollinstn 04-05-2004 07:27 PM

You can run two stock separators in parallel. That's the inexpensive way out.

On the other hand, there are several good quality high flow units out there. Check jegs or summit.

Dueclaws 04-05-2004 07:35 PM

Get the best filter that you can afford. Why would you chance frying your engine over a $100. part? In my opinion: "maybe it'll work" is not good enough. I use the new Hardin filters (similar to the KE part) and -10 (1/2") lines through the filters and into the pumps on my blown engines.
My 2 cents.
Due

cooltoys61 04-05-2004 07:52 PM

I'm using 10 lines and 1/2" in and out but there are lots of choices and lots of $100 + filters that won't work. Aeromotive reccomends the perma cool high flow good for 1500 GPM and about $35 with the filter.

SkiDoc 04-06-2004 06:44 AM

I used the one from Eddie marine with good results. The Keith Eickert model is the best looking, but I chose to save money.(So that I could spend it on a new propeller, Imco lower , external steering....man the procharger was just the start of the expense) The Eddie marine rig looked great because it was black and the stainless lines set it off.

kennyo 04-06-2004 08:31 AM

fuel seperator
 
You can remove the plugs on a stock unit and drill them out to 1/2" and retap for your fittings. this is all the others are. don't cost a thing! I don't know about the filter itself though.

jaybird 04-06-2004 08:43 AM

You can pick up a Permacool housing and filter with 1/2" fittings on it from either Jegs or summit for $31.99. At that price, it actually is less than the stock system from Merc! I just bought 2 of them last week from Jegs. Lots of places sell the same thing for twice the price. It's cast aluminum, so if you need something fancy looking like purple billet aluminum, go to Eddie Marine or someone like that and pay $100. Mine will be sprayed black to match the motors. :)

These were recommended to me by Nickerson Performance.

p4-33 04-06-2004 11:50 AM

I've been stressing over this same subject for a couple of months now, as I too am moving up to Aeromotive A1000's from Holley Blue's. I run HP500 carb motors, which are basically stock with an 850 carb and stock HP500 cam, slight head work.

I'm setting up my A1000's with bypass/return regulators, and have 1/2" lines from the tank up to the stock Merc filter/separator. These have 3/8" NPT fittings. I come out of these with adapters to AN-10, AN-10 thru the pump and into the reg., then AN-6 to the carb, and an AN-8 for a return line. This return line is 5/8" and dumps back into the tank via a tee in my fuel fill hose.

I recognize that the stock Merc filter/separator with it's 3/8" NPT sizes is a restriction, but my motors have been making fine power with them all along. I am also dealing with space limitations, and the "shortie" filter helps.

Really, the kicker for me is the Merc Racing 600SC uses these same 1/4" lines and 3/8" NPT fittings, same filter/separator mount, and they are driving a blower. Merc is more than conservative with everything they do, so I can't believe they would set up a stock motor package that is on the edge of fuel starvation.

Just for chits and grins, I'm boring out my stock separator mount inlets/outlets to 1/2" NPT, but I will continue to run the stock filter canister. Again, space is my motivator.

Cheers,
Brian

jaybird 04-06-2004 01:45 PM

The only way that you can be sure is to put a fuel pressure gauge up by the carb. FYI - last year I was running the stock Merc filter setup (previous owner put bigger fuel lines on, but still left the filter housing stock??), and my fuel pressure never fell below 7 PSI w/ blowers. I am currently replacing all the lines, so that is why I went with the upgraded fuel filters and housings so it is done right.

cooltoys61 04-06-2004 04:09 PM

Perma cool is on it's way,,thanks guys

Dixie Doug 04-07-2004 09:46 AM

Re: fuel seperator
 

Originally posted by kennyo
You can remove the plugs on a stock unit and drill them out to 1/2" and retap for your fittings. this is all the others are. don't cost a thing! I don't know about the filter itself though.
We have done that ,works great

StrikinLightnin 04-07-2004 07:19 PM

I know of engines with 800+HP using the PermaCool.
No problem!

Strip Poker 388 04-08-2004 01:24 AM

Re: Re: fuel seperator
 

Originally posted by Dixie Doug
We have done that ,works great

i have done it also and smoothed out in the filter ares in side also.


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