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cdscarab 07-08-2004 11:17 PM

HP500 cam installation
 
Does anyone know the correct angle to degree the intake lobe on a 95 HP cam? Was installed at 108 ATDC and am seeing moderate reversion using the stock gill exhaust.

rmbuilder 07-09-2004 07:13 AM

Re: HP500 cam installation
 
cdscarab
The ICL on the Hp 500 cam is 105* ATDC, your cam was installed 3* retarded.
Bob

HARRISONMIRAGE 07-09-2004 11:15 AM

Re: HP500 cam installation
 
Do you think cam time has much effect on reversion.I always thought exhaust design and cam overlap were the mane issues.

TomR 07-09-2004 12:10 PM

Re: HP500 cam installation
 
When the cam is advanced you will tend to see a little more reversion.
The cam in the carbed HP500 was a little on the mild side, so If you install that cam say at 109 to 110 degrees ILCL, you will see a small increase in performance from about 4000 rpm on up!

rmbuilder 07-09-2004 12:22 PM

Re: HP500 cam installation
 
HARRISONMIRAGE
It has been my experience that altering the overlap crossover point +/- 4* in either direction will do little to eliminate the effects of exhaust reversion. That is subject almost entirely to overlap duration. I do believe that advancing the cam can have an effect on intake reversion, due to the earlier intake valve opening point in the exhaust cycle and the corresponding earlier exhaust valve closing points.
Bob

rmbuilder 07-09-2004 12:26 PM

Re: HP500 cam installation
 
Just to be clear, intake reversion is a separate phenomenon from water reversion on the exhaust side.
Bob

cdscarab 07-09-2004 12:56 PM

Re: HP500 cam installation
 
Thanks for the input guys, talked with Mark at Precision Marine this AM and apparently the reversion problem is a combination of the narrow LSA and the Gill exhaust. He says this is the reason Merc. went with the CMI elbow tops. Now the question is what do I do for an exhaust system, or what could I do to modify the gill risers to eliminate the reversion without going completely dry? I wonder if anyone has ever experimented with welding shrouds over the water ports to direct the water rear ward? This would impart additional momentum to the water making it harder for the exhaust to pull it back in. Any thoughts on that?

open87 07-09-2004 01:03 PM

Re: HP500 cam installation
 
go with the dry pipes!! gotta love that sound! :D:D

rmbuilder 07-09-2004 01:30 PM

Re: HP500 cam installation
 
A great deal of research has been done on the automotive side on reversion control from the point of charge contamination and efficiency, rather than water ingestion, mostly in the area of header design and reversion damming. Given the design parameters of a marine wet exhaust I haven't seen an engineering solution yet that works for boats.
Bob

HARRISONMIRAGE 07-12-2004 02:57 PM

Re: HP500 cam installation
 
Do you think water reversion is worse if the duration at low lift is fairly large(more overlap @ .006).I put a zz502 cam in my motor that had the intake lobe retarded 4 degrees.This opened my lsa to112.I instaled the cam at 110 ilcl.The duration is 224/234 wich gives 5 degrees overlap.The duration at .006 is up around 300.I have run cams with more overlap at .050 that have had less reversion.Could this be due to the fact that there is more overlap at low lift with the zz cam.My last cam had 9 degrees overlap and I was using silent choice.I modified my risers to be dry to the transom with the zz cam and it still suffers from reversion if I let it idle to low.


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