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Infomaniac 12-03-2004 09:02 PM

New pleasure boat using resin infusion :)
 
Please read all of the posts before beating me up too bad. :crazy:

What an exciting event. The first boat from the mold. 27' deck boat.

For those that are unfamiliar with Trident. They made the leap into the next century with the hull layup techinque.

Gel Coat, Linear Foam core, Minimal layers of propriatery cloth. All put under vacum dry. While under vacuum the resin was infused.

This is a first for the deck boat manufacturing industry. Lighter and stronger than any other hull.

Enjoy these pictures. Register here at their web site for regular updates and the update archives are great reading.

http://www.tridentboats.com/gal/data..._Collage_2.jpg

jordy 12-04-2004 12:30 AM

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Looks pretty bad ass and a total change from the normal wet layup method.

Infomaniac 12-04-2004 10:01 AM

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The finished hull pic links are down right now apparently.

Here are some pics during the resin infusion. There is a video of this on Trident's site.

KNOT-RIGHT 12-04-2004 10:23 AM

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Notice the hoses.
I am wondering if thats how they remove the air creating the vacuum.
Pretty cool stuff :cool:

Infomaniac 12-04-2004 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by caveman
Notice the hoses.
I am wondering if thats how they remove the air creating the vacuum.
Pretty cool stuff :cool:

Way cool.

Here is a pic off of their site. A composite image during mock up processes. Looks like the operating room.

jordy 12-04-2004 11:10 AM

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The hose pipe the resin in and are infused into the core because of the vacuum. The video on the site is really cool as it shows it in process. :cool:

Cord 12-04-2004 04:20 PM

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vacuum infusion has been around for quite some time...

Infomaniac 12-04-2004 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cord
vacuum infusion has been around for quite some time...

Really?

What boat manufacturer is using the process?

Infomaniac 12-04-2004 04:26 PM

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Well the photo unreliability has driven a dedicated photo gallery. The model, building the plug and mold, also the first boat.


Trident Boats Photo Gallery

BradH 12-04-2004 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Infomaniac
Really?

What boat manufacturer is using the process?


First one I think of is Hinckley who uses SCRIMP. Genmar uses a similar process, VEC.

Infomaniac 12-04-2004 05:15 PM

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Well I guess I stand corrected. :(

How about every day pleasure boat mfgs? :p

I changed the title of the thread to reflect bieng a dumbass. I will stick to building engines.

mikes280 12-04-2004 10:25 PM

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is this the same thing as vacum bagged

Infomaniac 12-04-2004 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mikes280
is this the same thing as vacum bagged

Thanks for asking Mike. This is one step further than just vacuum bagging.

The resin is not added until under vacuum is the major difference. Along with the cloth and core being proprietary.

If you watch the infusion video Wes lets it slip that only 25 gallons of resin was used in the top cap. And this is a 27' boat

augie58 12-05-2004 08:26 AM

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this sounds an awful lot like what sonic is using. claims to have lighten the hulls up significantly while at the same time strengthening them.

Infomaniac 12-05-2004 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by augie58
this sounds an awful lot like what sonic is using. claims to have lighten the hulls up significantly while at the same time strengthening them.

Looks like they have a similar process. Using a balsa core. Sonic is a very well constructed boat.

I finally paid enough attention to Trident's method to notice what is so unique. They are doing this method over a sophisticated gel coat scheme. Which according to them is an industry first.

I was mistaken about the resin infusion itself being a first. But that process is very limited in the marine industry. And for sure a first in a deck boat.

The Trident hull is one of a kind also and they have patented it as a tri hydro design

rjcardinal 12-05-2004 09:34 AM

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Genmar's VEC infusion process http://www.genmar.com/page.cfm?id=63

They make Four Winns, Glastron, Hydra Sports and others.

Ron

Infomaniac 12-05-2004 09:46 AM

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Thanks Ron

This has been an educaton for me. That looks like a really cool high tech process.

Maybe I should have said Trident has a unique process as I have now learned a few others have similar processes. Resin infusion over sophisticated gel coat is supposed to be a first in the industry.

The Trident hull is one of a kind and they have patented it as a tri hydro design.

Looks like a cat? NO CAT INSURANCE. :D

Froggystyle 12-06-2004 04:18 PM

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First post here everyone... go easy on me.

This is our boat the Trident Revolution we are talking about here. Lots of new stuff went in, lots of stuff that has been done before.

Without my industry almanac and history book of everything that has ever been done in the industry worldwide in front of me... we can state plainly what happened last week.

A) we used a resin infusion process. This has been used in many capacities in the aerospace and high end yacht building segments of manufacturing to extreme success. There are companies such as Hinkley using it currently as well (I actually got to check out the first Hinckley picnic boat they did with this process the other day). It is not new or innovative to the world... it has been done. I am sure there is others.

B) We are what appears to be the first company to do it over complex gelcoat graphics though.

C) Our linear foam core was both custom made and manufactured by SP Systems for our specifications and dimensions. This is not an off the shelf thickness of foam, nor an off the shelf perforation/VIC grooving pattern. It was done to reduce/eliminate the pattern transfer on the outside of the gelcoat.

D) Vectorply built us our quad axial laminate cloth for our specifications. Others might be using something similar, but my impression from Vectorply was that this was being sewn for us specifically due to our high volume of bias unidirectional glass layers. We have altered the layup slightly to include more "DB" or double bias material without the LT material (0-90 degree laminates).

E) We are totally stoked! The entire structural laminate section of our hull and deck took only 60 gallons of resin or so, and quite a bit of that was removed with the peel ply and flow media layer removal.

This has been the end of a very long process for me and the team at Trident, and we will be very busy building this boat for a while, but I wanted to come on here and thank everyone for the support, and answer a few of the questions.

See you on the water!

Wes

noli 10-06-2014 10:18 AM

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What is the price difference, in reference to manufacturing costs, between vacuum bagging and vacuum infusion?

BUP 10-06-2014 04:09 PM

NOLI call Airtech - advance materials group. 714-899-8100 and www.airtechonline.com

I just talked to these guys in person about all of this as I'm trying to help out a builder who is going to vacuum bagging for manufacturing his boat line.

I will post more info of their websites and they told me they have a ton of videos to view. I have to pull their business card out and other materials they gave me for that info. I have been to lazy to have unpacked as of yet.


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