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CAPTAIN CHUCK 01-06-2005 09:20 PM

I need a new carb!!!!
 
I am ready to replace my stock carb w/ something that will make some serious difference. My engine is all stock 1994 454 mag merc. What would be the best way to go to get more performance? i was looking at holleys, but i'm not really sure......please help me guys!!! Thanks

Smitty 01-06-2005 09:36 PM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
Make sure to check out the Demon carbs by Barry Grant.

Vinny P 01-06-2005 10:43 PM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
Most likely your current carb is either a Weber or a Rochester. A Holley will not fit on either of those intake manifolds without using one of those adapter plates. The bolt pattern and hole in the manifold iare different. Unless your old carb is worn or needs rebuilding, replacing only the carb will net you nothing in speed. If the motor runs fine with the old carb, leave it alone. If not call Dean or Brad @ Nickerson Performance, they can set you up right the first time.

CAPTAIN CHUCK 01-06-2005 11:33 PM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
My Stock Weber Carb Was Rebuilt 3 Months Ago, But It Still Won't Put Out. The Shop That Rebuilt It Must Have Done A Terrible Job B/c The Inside Of My Carb Has A Rust Build Up In It. I Tried To Get It Off, But It Comes Right Back. I Ran My Boat The Other Day And She Was Surging A Good Bit. The New Carb Is Just The First Step Of A Few Upgades. Any Suggestions Are Welcome....thanks Guys.

Griff 01-07-2005 03:59 AM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
A carb won't make a "serious difference" in performance unless the one on it is way wrong.
A Holley carb will bolt up to a magnum intake just fine without an adapter.

seabeach 01-07-2005 04:29 AM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
Have seen very good results with Rochester, even better than Holley on 454s but they are a pain to set up. Very few people know how to do a Rochester, Holley is more commonly used and more people know how they work.

KAAMA 01-07-2005 06:25 AM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
I would look on the intake manifold where the carb bolts up (flange) and see if there are two different bolt hole patterns. It seems that if I remember correctly that is probably what you will find although you still MAY need a 1" adaptor in order to use a Holley----if that is the case it;s not a big deal. A 750cfm Holley would work fine in your application, but wouldn't go over an 800cfm on your 454cid as you don't want to over carb.

Also, if you're still running the bone stock Merc exhaust manifolds (which are very crude) it would be a good thing to replace them with an aftermarket set of exhaust manifolds and stainless tailpipes. I prefer the Stainless Marine exhaust manifolds---it's a very good design, very durable, and affordable, but in your case probably just about any manifold design will help. Aftermarket exhaust manifolds are usually cast in aluminum so they are MUCH lighter than the stock Merc cast iron manifolds you have now. They will also dress up your engines much nicer and will give your engines more of a rumble tone/sound if that is what you like. You probably are not going to see much difference in speed (if at all) by just changing out a carb and exhaust system, BUT every little bit helps especially after adding the aftermarket exhausts you will most likely notice a slight increase in RPM, better performance, and throttle response in the midrange.

squick 01-07-2005 09:04 AM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
If I'm not mistaken, the '94 motor will have the small peanut port heads. If you're interested, I've got a pretty fresh set of vortec oval port heads that I'll sell you cheap.

As far as carbs, I went with the Sea Demon 750 on mine.

CAPTAIN CHUCK 01-07-2005 09:49 AM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 

Originally Posted by 2quick
If I'm not mistaken, the '94 motor will have the small peanut port heads. If you're interested, I've got a pretty fresh set of vortec oval port heads that I'll sell you cheap.

As far as carbs, I went with the Sea Demon 750 on mine.

I AM LOOKING AT THE SEA DEMON 750 W/ ELEC. CHOKE:
http://www.flatlanderracing.com/carbsdemonsea.html
DO YOU LIKE YOURS? ALSO HOW MUCH YOU ASKING FOR THE HEADS?
I REALLY WANT A NEW CARB....THE ONE I HAVE NOW IS CRAP....SO THANKS FOR THE INFO GUYS.
ONE MORE THING....THE BEST PRICE I FOUND ON THE SEA DEMON IS $492.00.
ANYBODY KNOW A CHEAPER PLACE?
THANKS

Gary Anderson 01-07-2005 10:13 AM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
The rust inside, is that in the float bowls? If so, you may have a problem with rust in the tank or lines. There's actually not much to rust inside a carb.
Also, if its a weber (Carter AFB, squarebore), a holley or deamon will bolt right up, but you will need to bend a new hard fuel line. If it's a Qjet (speadbore), an adapter or new manifold will be needed. In either case a new manifold wouldnt hurt, especially if you plan a new cam, head work, exhaust, etc.
Gary

squick 01-07-2005 10:41 AM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
captchuckv - you've got email

squick 01-07-2005 11:33 AM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 

Originally Posted by formulaz583
If you use the adapter, you will lose some carb efficency. Its not a recomended practice for a hi po motor to do this. Get the correct intake for the carb.


The Edelbrock air gap is only $230 and less than $200 for the performer.

squick 01-07-2005 11:36 AM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
http://secure.offshoreonly.com/geocl...php?a=2&b=3156

There's your carb

mcollinstn 01-07-2005 05:00 PM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
STOP chasing your tail.

There is nothing "in" your carb that can cause a rust buildup in it.

You've got crap in your fuel system and it is finding its way into your carb.
Feel free to disbelieve this and feel free to spend thousands of dollars in your attempt to get rid of your "bad" carb, but if you put a $1000 custom calibrated carb on your motor, you'll still end up with it "filled with rust".

My guess?
It's not rust. It's typical fuel system sludge. Dirt. Varnish. Byproducts in suspension. And when the fuel evaporates out of your float bowls (which happens after a few days of non-use) the sludge particles harden into a reddish brown bunch of crap (which does look a lot like rust).
Alternately, you have a bunch of water in your fuel system and it is picking up some iron from your fuel system and it actually IS rust in your carb, but it is coming from upstream and ending up there.

You gotta figure out what you've got in your tanks, separators, and fuel lines.

Cause it sure ain't fresh clean gas.

And a 454 Mag will run as good with a stock 750 Rochester as it will with any Holley or Demon you choose to replace it with (assuming that a carb replacement is your only planned modification).

Stop being hard headed and find the source of your main problem.

Payton 01-07-2005 09:56 PM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 

Originally Posted by 2quick
If I'm not mistaken, the '94 motor will have the small peanut port heads. If you're interested, I've got a pretty fresh set of vortec oval port heads that I'll sell you cheap.

As far as carbs, I went with the Sea Demon 750 on mine.

You do NOT have the peanut port heads if you have a 454Mag. You've got a good GM 088 rectangle port head.

mcollinstn, good advise!!

AIRTIME 01-10-2005 11:29 PM

Re: I need a new carb!!!!
 
thats a non CG aproved :( carb no no ! :( :(


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