AN Stainless braided hose ends
 

I'm plumbing an aftermarket oil cooler for a HP 500 clone.

Will regular anodized hose ends hold up in for saltwater use?

Which AN hose ends are better for salt water corrosion resistance?

Russell
Russell Endura
Aeroquip
Earls
Earls Hard anodized

Thanks!!!!!!

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I have had good luck with Earls fittings.

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xrp's are nice too

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I had them on some 700 Zuls and they lasted 2 seasons before falling apart.

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xrp's ??

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Rick,

Try Sweet Performance, he can get what you need
and probably save some dinero.

www.sweetperformance.com


If they are made from good quality stainless, passivated
before they are polished, they should last a while. Lots
in use in the aerospace and food processing industries.

Good luck,

OR

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brian jones marine

http://www.jonesmarineinc.com/

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I'm in a business that utilizes high-pressure hydraulics in industrial applications. We do all our own fab work on hoses, lines, etc. Only one of the brands you mention are commercial quality. The others are hotrod stuff. The brand is Aeroquip. Buy their stainless and have their local distributor swage the ends. They'll outlast everything else on the boat. Everything else is hobbyist stuff. Another brand (my preference) is Parker. They have a distributor iin just about every little jerkwater town in the country. That means you can fix whatever, whenever.

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I use Areoquip, they make good pieces. An old time racer told me that you can't see a hose going bad if its stainless braided, that sounded ok to me. Earls fittings are nice too i got them on my tug boat.

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I lost my aluminum fittings in 8 months due to saltwater corrosion, try these guys they are extremely knowledgeable and have all the AN type fittings in either SS or brass. I wish we did it right the first time !!
http://www.fittingsandadapters.com/

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OLDRAT, Thanks for the nice words. Our hose ends and adapters are 2024 or 6061 Alum.
We are a dealer for a nice polished 304 s.s. line too. I don't want to spam the board so give me a ring if interested.

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I started out using Russell then some Areoquip ,goodwrernch and Then I when to the Earls swivel seal. they re a more expensive fitting .On my race cars and show cars and previous boat I use Earls now.You will see a lot of earls on Indy type cars.

As far a aluminum fittings the Earls is a higher quality.They will corrode on a boat. look at my engine thread I had two fail after I took the motors out of the boat ,don't know what name brand but looked like the areoquip.They where 3 years old . It corroded in half :eek: .

I would try to run the stainless if ya can afford and find them. My Hustler has both on them . someone else already rigged the boat.The aluminum will last a little while though .

Chris I have tried finding the stainless in stock in my little jerkwater state. no luck not even on the coast. thanks for the links guys Ill try them .

As far as the Earls aluminum fittings I have been buying them from Scoggin Enterprises in Tenn. they where around 28% off Jobber to the public and I have been up to 44% off buying alot from them.Remember there is a difference in the braided hose quality also.

heres some plumbing :D

http://www.anplumbing.com/SWIVEL_SEAL_HOSE_ENDS.html

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Agreed. They might not come in as many colors but quality is high, you've got your choice of materials, (steel, S/S, aluminum, brass, chome plated brass, etc.). The price is also very reasonable. You can also save A LOT of money by using only what you need (ie rubber coated steel lines) rather than the showy S/S braided lines.
Pick up a Parker catalog. You'll find EVERYTHING you'll ever need there.
Gary

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Rick,

I don't know how much $$$ you're looking to spend, but JEGS carries Russell SS fittings and hose ends. I know they're not as cheap as alum, but you have to figure they should last you the life of the boat.

Here's a direct link to the fittings: http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...84&prmenbr=361

And here is the link to go directly to the hose ends: http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...75&prmenbr=361

BTW-Eddie Marine also carries SS fittings, but for BIG $$$

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Most NASCAR teams use Goodridge hose and fittings.
www.goodridge.net
Call the NC location.

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OK I have a stupid question....why cant you seam to find Male swivel fittings? For what we are doing in Marine applications we aren't running that much pressure.

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[QUOTE=Commander112]Rick,

I don't know how much $$$ you're looking to spend, but JEGS carries Russell SS fittings and hose ends. I know they're not as cheap as alum, but you have to figure they should last you the life of the boat.



Too bad all the stainless russel hose end are straight. I use a lot of 45 and 90 degree ends.

BTW CP performance also carries the stainless fittings

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You can't see hose going bad under the braid because if it's the proper hose, it doesn't. You have to tell your hose provider what you're putting though it for them to supply you hose with the proper rating. Hydraulic fluid (and trans fluid) is different than motor oil. Brake fluid requires completely different hose. Using oil in water-rated hose is a recipe for failure. Pressure is important too. Find out answers to these questions before you call. You can work with some places who will hand-hold you through this but you're going to pay hobbyist prices. If you do your homework and know what you want you can buy through local hydraulic distributors and save large sums of $$. They're set up for and used to dealing with professionals who know what they need or at best need minor technical consultation. If you call looking for someone to teach you all about hose, you're going to get blown off.

The first piece of basic info you need is to know conversion from fractional to AN sizing. (3/8" equals -6AN, etc). The rest is fittings and hose grade.

All this information is on Parker's and Aeroquip's website. They'll send you full-line catalogs and load you up with tech info. Goodyear is also getting back into this business. These hoses aren't cheap. Do your homework and save yourself a bundle.

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If you're looking at running AN fittings on a marine application (although it isn't USCG legal) either get the Stainless Steel ends, or the hard coat anodized fittings.

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Research the hose yourself before installing or re-using on motor. Friend just lost $20,000 motor due to Aeroquip pushlock hose blowing off. Appears that liner seperated, possibly from cleaning solvent , or wrong temp range.
Don't trust a hose supplier to give you the right hose. In this world everybody likes to come across like they know everything. And we might be fooled into listening to them like they know what thier talking about.
It sucks that young kids that work at part counters at places that just sell hoses and fittings don't care to have the training or hands on knowledge or real experience. This kind of stupidity is happening in every field of technical business. BBB

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I have to agree with a lot of comments about these Aeroquip, Jegs, etc... hose ends. I see the major problem as the salt water getting in between the fitting and the hose and splitting them apart! Now that sucks! :mad: All stainless hose end crimped in to a really good hose like Parker or Aeroquip is how I roll now. Just sucks to have black or blue hoses though.

John S. :D

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This particular problem was not a corrosion issue. There was no corrosion at all. BBB

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So what was the problem or should I say root cause of the hose to fitting failure? :cool:

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Hose needs to be cut from fitting examined, trimmed back to create new fit. If any separation is found between the inner liner and the jacket where it is glued/vulcanized, the hose should be replaced.
I feel that the bond and cordage between the inner and outer jacket must not be compromised.
I feel in this particular situation that the hose end balooned out and oil pressure popped it off of the fitting.
Using swaged on ends, or ones that you thread the retainer on in the vise will prevent the hose from coming off of the fitting.
What happened to us is rare, but now we know it can happen, nobody can afford this sort of problem, even if wealthy. The stress and anxiety over spending so much time energy and money and maybe loosing the season sucks.
On a high performance motor you can't afford not to buy the best oil hoses that you can obtain.
Build things to aircraft specs and we will experience less failure, sometimes airplanes fall out of the sky, but not as much as boat motors blowing up.

Check out Carroll Smith's book about fasteners , and plumbing. It is filled with knowledge. BBB

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Can you give any of these guys the demensions, and the type fittings you need, and have them put them on? I need a fuel line. I thought I could use the one of a spare engine just like it, but this engine has closed cooling, and I have to route it differently :(

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Cuda,
If you interested, Aeroquip makes a USCG approved hose and fitting system using the FC234 AQP hose. It does have the SAE 100R5 crimped ends and the hose is fire rated, hence the USCG approval rating.
I have had great success using the Aeroquip Socketless System with the FC332 and FC598 AQP hose and fittings. It is a must to use their fittings and their hose. Follow the installation instructions to the letter and there should be no issues.
Soaking the hose in some unknown solvent is asking for problems.
The fittings are billed as being reuseable. Reuse with caution.
We have seen a failure on a AN flair fitting at the flair. It was cracked.
Maybe overtightening caused the fitting to be compromised.