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Is St Pete dead??
Will there ever be Offshore racing APBA/SBI/OSS at St Pete?? :(
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OSS is talking about holding there Worlds there in Nov
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For their sake I hope they don't use the 2004 course. The 2003 was great...
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the 2004 course was caused by the STM club!
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St. Pete has gotten a bad taste for Offshore racing,and isn't in a big hurry to bring it back.I'm sure in time things will change like all thgings do, but only time will tell.
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:( :mad: :( :mad:
Things are really getting bad here. There was a rather lengthy article in this mornings paper about too much noise and too big a waves "caused by the go boats" that are washing away shorelines of our lakes (Eustis area). :mad: Happy fathers day to all pappys.... |
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Letter in our paper about the race in July on the lake here. The moron (and I can say this because I know him) says 70 or more boats going over 100mph.
In actuality, I believe there is just one class that gets anywhere 100. They will kill fish, plants, shoreline and just about anything else in or near the water. Too bad it doesn't kill some of these old people who come here and assume after a year or 2 of paying taxes the own the place. |
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Originally Posted by gdfatha
:( :mad: :( :mad:
Things are really getting bad here. There was a rather lengthy article in this mornings paper about too much noise and too big a waves "caused by the go boats" that are washing away shorelines of our lakes (Eustis area). :mad: Happy fathers day to all pappys.... Nothing like a nice easy target to throw rocks at. :cool: |
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Originally Posted by florida gator
Letter in our paper about the race in July on the lake here. .
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Originally Posted by cuda
What lake?
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Cuda
Here is item in Orlando Sentinel Crowded lakes test neighbors By Stephen Hudak Sentinel Staff Writer June 19, 2005 EUSTIS -- From his dock, Stacey Pait scowled at the line of whitecaps rolling across East Crooked Lake, crashing into his shore and chewing at the high banks like piranha. Pait, 75, figures in the past year he has lost two feet of property, a concrete walk and landscaping to the water. He blames wakeboarding neighbors for the omnivorous waves. A few miles away, Monty Gatch, whose family has lived on Clear Lake for 40 years, circulated a petition to dock his newest neighbor's boat, a wave-making 23-footer. He says the vessel's wake swamps fishing boats and ruins the lake for others. As Central Florida's population grows, so do lake conflicts, said law-enforcement, government and wildlife officials, who often are asked to intercede in the disputes. But municipal and county governments cannot arbitrarily prohibit legal recreation in public waters, said Kevin McCann, who is responsible for lake management in Orlando. The city, for example, decided it could not divide Lake Ivanhoe into separate lobes to resolve a feud between water-skiers and fishermen, though it seemed a fair solution. For people who for years enjoyed the tranquillity of quiet lakes, sharing the water with skiers, personal-watercraft riders and wakeboarders can be especially difficult, McCann said. "But you're either going to have to get used to it or move," he said. Tiffs have always been common between people who enjoy fishing, birding and other less athletic activities and those who'd rather water-ski, wakeboard or ride personal watercraft. But growth amplifies their disputes. "More and more people are on the water, so you have more and more conflicts," said Sam McKinney, a biologist with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. Lake County sheriff's Capt. Cecil Garrett compared congestion on inland waterways to traffic on the highway. "The lakes aren't getting any bigger," Garrett said. "People get frustrated." Lake's marine patrol was summoned to Clear Lake five times last month by neighbors seething over Colin Johnson, who uses his big boat to make waves he can jump on his personal watercraft. Johnson, 27, was cited once for reckless boating, a charge he disputes. Deputies noted no violations during the other calls, though they watched him from neighbors' yards for 30 minutes one time and for 45 minutes another, according to sheriff's reports. "I'm not doing anything illegal," Johnson said. "They want to keep me from enjoying what I enjoy doing on the lake, and they can't tell me what I can and can't do on state property." Though surrounded by private property owners, the lake belongs to the public. The petition submitted to Lake County commissioners by Gatch and Johnson's other neighbors sought to restrict vessel size and horsepower, and the county agreed to consider it. On East Crooked Lake, five families own wake boats, including Pait's next-door neighbors, Scott and Merry Worrell. Their son, Wade, rides their boat's wake almost daily. The neighbors are friendly to one another, though the Worrells disagree with Pait's blaming wakeboarders for damage to his shorefront. They have directed their son to practice his acrobatics far from Pait's property whenever possible. "We love our lake," Merry Worrell said. "We care about it and protect it. But we use it differently than Mr. Pait. Some people, at a different season in their lives, enjoy nature passively by looking at it, others enjoy it by participating in it. We participate in it." During an interview on his dock, Pait frowned as a wake-making boat buzzed by. Rock music blared from its stern. The boat turned, and waves rolled. Pait's frown deepened. "If I was a kid, I'd be doing the same thing. That's why you live on the water -- to enjoy it," he said. "But tearing up other people's property, well, that's another thing entirely." Still, Pait said he realizes he might be swimming against the tide, especially when he considers the experience of Rick and Cindy Schumann, who own a lakefront home in Groveland. The Schumanns moved to Lake Catherine nine years ago, expecting to retire in the house they considered their dream home. But new neighbors arrived who enjoyed personal watercraft. For two years, the Schumanns petitioned the county to outlaw the buzzing motorized vessels on the 70-acre lake and calm the waters. They put their home up for sale two weeks ago. "We gave up," Rick Schumann said. "We will never live on a lake again, never, ever. You have no privacy on a lake and, worse, you have no control over what's in your back yard." Stephen Hudak can be reached at 352-742-5930 or [email protected]. |
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Why did Koolhand say that "St. Pete has gotten a bad taste for Offshore racing,and isn't in a big hurry to bring it back" and where did he get that information from?
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Originally Posted by seadog
Why did Koolhand say that "St. Pete has gotten a bad taste for Offshore racing,and isn't in a big hurry to bring it back" and where did he get that information from?
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Originally Posted by seadog
Why did Koolhand say that "St. Pete has gotten a bad taste for Offshore racing,and isn't in a big hurry to bring it back" and where did he get that information from?
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Originally Posted by gdfatha
Cuda
Here is item in Orlando Sentinel Crowded lakes test neighbors By Stephen Hudak Sentinel Staff Writer June 19, 2005 EUSTIS -- From his dock, Stacey Pait scowled at the line of whitecaps rolling across East Crooked Lake, crashing into his shore and chewing at the high banks like piranha. Pait, 75, figures in the past year he has lost two feet of property, a concrete walk and landscaping to the water. He blames wakeboarding neighbors for the omnivorous waves. A few miles away, Monty Gatch, whose family has lived on Clear Lake for 40 years, circulated a petition to dock his newest neighbor's boat, a wave-making 23-footer. He says the vessel's wake swamps fishing boats and ruins the lake for others. As Central Florida's population grows, so do lake conflicts, said law-enforcement, government and wildlife officials, who often are asked to intercede in the disputes. But municipal and county governments cannot arbitrarily prohibit legal recreation in public waters, said Kevin McCann, who is responsible for lake management in Orlando. The city, for example, decided it could not divide Lake Ivanhoe into separate lobes to resolve a feud between water-skiers and fishermen, though it seemed a fair solution. For people who for years enjoyed the tranquillity of quiet lakes, sharing the water with skiers, personal-watercraft riders and wakeboarders can be especially difficult, McCann said. "But you're either going to have to get used to it or move," he said. Tiffs have always been common between people who enjoy fishing, birding and other less athletic activities and those who'd rather water-ski, wakeboard or ride personal watercraft. But growth amplifies their disputes. "More and more people are on the water, so you have more and more conflicts," said Sam McKinney, a biologist with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. Lake County sheriff's Capt. Cecil Garrett compared congestion on inland waterways to traffic on the highway. "The lakes aren't getting any bigger," Garrett said. "People get frustrated." Lake's marine patrol was summoned to Clear Lake five times last month by neighbors seething over Colin Johnson, who uses his big boat to make waves he can jump on his personal watercraft. Johnson, 27, was cited once for reckless boating, a charge he disputes. Deputies noted no violations during the other calls, though they watched him from neighbors' yards for 30 minutes one time and for 45 minutes another, according to sheriff's reports. "I'm not doing anything illegal," Johnson said. "They want to keep me from enjoying what I enjoy doing on the lake, and they can't tell me what I can and can't do on state property." Though surrounded by private property owners, the lake belongs to the public. The petition submitted to Lake County commissioners by Gatch and Johnson's other neighbors sought to restrict vessel size and horsepower, and the county agreed to consider it. On East Crooked Lake, five families own wake boats, including Pait's next-door neighbors, Scott and Merry Worrell. Their son, Wade, rides their boat's wake almost daily. The neighbors are friendly to one another, though the Worrells disagree with Pait's blaming wakeboarders for damage to his shorefront. They have directed their son to practice his acrobatics far from Pait's property whenever possible. "We love our lake," Merry Worrell said. "We care about it and protect it. But we use it differently than Mr. Pait. Some people, at a different season in their lives, enjoy nature passively by looking at it, others enjoy it by participating in it. We participate in it." During an interview on his dock, Pait frowned as a wake-making boat buzzed by. Rock music blared from its stern. The boat turned, and waves rolled. Pait's frown deepened. "If I was a kid, I'd be doing the same thing. That's why you live on the water -- to enjoy it," he said. "But tearing up other people's property, well, that's another thing entirely." Still, Pait said he realizes he might be swimming against the tide, especially when he considers the experience of Rick and Cindy Schumann, who own a lakefront home in Groveland. The Schumanns moved to Lake Catherine nine years ago, expecting to retire in the house they considered their dream home. But new neighbors arrived who enjoyed personal watercraft. For two years, the Schumanns petitioned the county to outlaw the buzzing motorized vessels on the 70-acre lake and calm the waters. They put their home up for sale two weeks ago. "We gave up," Rick Schumann said. "We will never live on a lake again, never, ever. You have no privacy on a lake and, worse, you have no control over what's in your back yard." Stephen Hudak can be reached at 352-742-5930 or [email protected]. Big Air Jer :) |
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The race last year in st pete will NOT effect how thick Todd's steaks are... He would have gladly paid double for it being his race, Problem was M. Alweiss and storms...
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Originally Posted by Airentrapment
The race last year in st pete will NOT effect how thick Todd's steaks are... He would have gladly paid double for it being his race, Problem was M. Alweiss and storms...
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St. Petersburg, FL is a one of the best racing venues in the United States and will be for future offshore power boat races. The sport needs more Todd Werner's to step up to the plate and sponsor an event of this magnitude.
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I guess the old saying is true, You have to break some eggs to make an omelet, Maybe that's what Todd did in stpete last year... I don't think the profit or loss was his motive, Maybe he made head way for future races in St pete, It's a great venue...
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Dry sump, define bad karma?
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Who is Rick Baker and what has he got to do with racing.
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What ever happened to the idea of running a race from the Tampa side, using the old Gandy Bridge as a spectator area? That would be great.
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Originally Posted by seadog
Who is Rick Baker and what has he got to do with racing.
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Originally Posted by mbowers
He's the Mayor of St. Pete
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Originally Posted by Airentrapment
Maybe he made head way for future races in St pete, It's a great venue...
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For a race that may not happen, rooms at the vinoy are all but gone already.
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The politics of this sport sometimes just ruins the passion for offshore racing... It breaks my heart.........
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Hey Nick.. How have you and the family been??
Do yo enjoy the Cig more thatn the Baja?? Hope to see you in sarasota.. All are welcome to my room to observe the Marina folies.. Hope to see ya soon... marc |
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Marc,
Thanks for asking. We've been doing great! The cig is just awesome, there's no comparison. We'll be in Sarasota for the races and I look forward to seeing you again. Take it easy, my friend! :cool: |
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