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AIR TIME 06-26-2008 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by used_parts (Post 1462366)
In June of 2000 I was 100 miles off Port Canaveral on my 60 Buddy Davis when a shaft Log box broke,I radioed the CG for help. The CG had a cutter about 50 miles from me and a chopper out of Jacksonville on route.Now guess who radioed and said they could help?SEA TOW! When i told Sea Tow i was a 60 ftr they said they could get another 2 boats.The CG beat them and the CG towed me in No Charge.Now if my brother Robert and I ran our towing company by ease dropping on the Police -Sheriff-Florida Highway Patrol we wouldnt be in buisness,by the way our tow rates are governed by the city ,county and state.

I now this is 05 but your right states should have rate for sea tow.

getreal 06-27-2008 05:11 PM

exshipdude:
How far "up" is you're head "where the sun don't shine"? Were not talking about a pleasure boater breaking down. This (both times for me) was on a closed course where Sea Tow crossed a hot track. What if they would have hit another boat? Business is business and what all this negative press is going to cost you guys, you may want to rethink your morals. If you don't like my opinion, lets meet in person (preferably in a dark alley) and we can talk about it. By the way, since when are Sea Tow people qualified to assess the value of a vessel, on the spot?

phragle 06-28-2008 05:45 AM

I do not buy exshipdudes explination..heres why... I am an EMT,if I offer"first aid" services to a promoter in exchange for advertising, then when someone wrecks bad and needs CPR, intubation, spinal immobilization etc.. I show up and say..."gee..Im sorry, I offered first aid, that includes bandaids on small scatches, you need skilled medical intervention, that will be $15,000" because it could put me in jepordy because your bleeding etc could expose me to whatever diseases you have. well that just wrong.

Now if Im at work at the hospital or on an ambulance, I expect to be paid for my services, but if I volunteer to provide my services in exchange for advertising, thats my payment PERIOD. splitting hairs over whether its a hangnail or cardioversion is just plain wrong.

Turbojack 06-28-2008 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 2605590)
I do not buy exshipdudes explination..heres why... I am an EMT,if I offer"first aid" services to a promoter in exchange for advertising, then when someone wrecks bad and needs CPR, intubation, spinal immobilization etc.. I show up and say..."gee..Im sorry, I offered first aid, that includes bandaids on small scatches, you need skilled medical intervention, that will be $15,000" because it could put me in jepordy because your bleeding etc could expose me to whatever diseases you have. well that just wrong.

Now if Im at work at the hospital or on an ambulance, I expect to be paid for my services, but if I volunteer to provide my services in exchange for advertising, thats my payment PERIOD. splitting hairs over whether its a hangnail or cardioversion is just plain wrong.

Good example. I think the fire department might not be a good example since some/most are goverment owned, but makes a good point.

boatme 06-28-2008 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by exshipdude (Post 1461439)
Bruce,

Salvage rewards are never based on time and never should be. I wish I had a nickle for everytime I have heard the argument, "well it only took you and hour and there was no damage." My response is always, " well how much damage do you want?" This is of course after the boat has been saved only tens of feet of the rocks in four foot waves.

So the doctor was going to charge me $150 to take the metal shaving out of my eye from grinding on my car but decides to charge me $100,000 saying "You know how close to going blind you were? If I had't got that out of your eye you would have been blind so it is worth the $100,000"

How about the mechanic that fixes my brakes for $200 Maybe he should charge me $50,000 because i was close to having no brakes an i could have lost control and gone over a cliff

Are you out of your mind ?? Of course it could be an hourly fee you just dont want it to be What makes you think you should get paid for what could have happend

phragle 06-28-2008 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by boatme (Post 2605658)
So the doctor was going to charge me $150 to take the metal shaving out of my eye from grinding on my car but decides to charge me $100,000 saying "You know how close to going blind you were? If I had't got that out of your eye you would have been blind so it is worth the $100,000"


I gotta work for those rates...hell a cardiac arrest save.... man you were DEAD.. now your not...thats gotta be worth a new OL 51 and canal front in miami.... why am I making $10.34??

boatme 06-28-2008 08:41 AM

phragle's example is best by far
exshipdude sounds just like a lawyer
Wanting payment for what might of happend or might have been required to do a job weather needed or not

The boat you referance DID NOT end up on the rocks so you have no right to charge because it COULD HAVE ENDED UP ON THE ROCKS

Just because you can sue for pain in suffering doesnt make it right

Just because you can charge rediculas money does not make it right

No morals and no integrity just one more sad part of where our country is going

If i told my dad i was charging for services that MIGHT happen he would have taken me out back and beat some integrity into me and he is almost 80 years old

How this guy sleeps at night is beyond me

boatme 06-28-2008 08:58 AM

The longer i think about this the more upset i get

I charge for my services in my job, up front before i get the order
I cannot say oh by the way it would have taken me more time had you requested more work (even though you didnt )
so i am going to charge you because you might have wanted me to do more but did not

This is the dumbest argument I have heard give me a break the true reason for the excesivet charge is "BECAUSE YOU CAN" not because it is needed

MANITIE 06-28-2008 10:48 AM

For races....we need to some how make sure to have a contract for a set amount for a tow....and give them some PR...its bad enough we put our lives and equipment on the line out there ever time we go out....and knowing we have no insurance in a race and if we flip we already know we will be spending 20k to 80k just to fix the boat....we should not have to worry about another 20k tow bill......

boatme 06-29-2008 07:20 AM

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