Ok maybe a different way........
Ok I have to get this off my mind. It was great hanging in Chattanooga all weekend and seeing old friends and racers. OPA did a great job as well as Pop. It was one of the best race sites I have ever attended. The current GPS, big motor , prop down , dry sump , huge power and stare at the GPS works for some but I still feel there is a better way to race. Yes I failed miserably at the ORL deal this Spring. Nobody would bite. It's obvious sealed motors aren't the way to go. Mercury is out of racing as far as the smaller open cockpit boats 24-30 ft. The engine builders are back in and they should be. So why doesn't some organization atleast run minimum weights, put engine rules/ specs back in, go back to pre/post race inspections, run WOTand put some art back into the smaller classes. I can't believe I even care but I just can't let it go.
A-Class was incredible ten years ago. How do you like this list of registered A-Class boats in 1996? Info by Phantom1. Ale House Racing Archer Marine Scarab Ballistic Breathless Christie's Photographic Cool Running Damn Donzi the New Generation Duces-R-Wild Excalibur Final Notice Final Persuasion Flash Point Fortune and Glory Frank's Marine Hart Throb La Baby Argentina Mediamaster Mr. Zip No Limits Not Guilty II Off Limits Optical Illusion Pantera Racing Performance Marine Phantaseas Pitman Photo Express Powerplay Racing Pure Energy Quarter King Rain-X Express Scatterbrain Shogun SMG Express Standing Room Only Stressed Out Subluxator Tabu Team Chicago Team Exciter Team Hardcore Team Hogs Breath Team Intercoastal Team Progression Team Saber Team Thoroughbred Tina-Team Mean Green VIS Auto Finance What's Instore Wizard of Oz |
I have talked to some who are considering a single engine class with a power/weight ratio formula. This way no matter what motor you have you can run.
There are a lot of details that need to be worked out. Motors would have to be dyno'ed and then the weight of the boat would be calculated based on the dyno HP. I agree, all out single engine class racing is very exciting, the question is what is the formula to make it work. |
It has to be cheap and easy. Easy for the teams and inspectors. How about, one gear ratio and measure the sweet spot speed. For example, in class 2 it would be 60-90mph. Then add weight to the quicker boats. The boats get run with 2 prop sizes before the first race and the engines are sealed. Then add weight to the quicker boats. The min weight for that specific boat gets marked on the transom and everyone monitors each other at the crane.
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All good points taken but no speed restrictions. Let the best prepared team win. Surely somebody can make this happen. Keep the motors simple enough so we can afford them and they will last. Rough water will be the equalizer in the end!
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Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV
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It has to be cheap and easy.
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Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV
(Post 2307216)
It has to be cheap and easy. Easy for the teams and inspectors. How about, one gear ratio and measure the sweet spot speed. For example, in class 2 it would be 60-90mph. Then add weight to the quicker boats. The boats get run with 2 prop sizes before the first race and the engines are sealed. Then add weight to the quicker boats. The min weight for that specific boat gets marked on the transom and everyone monitors each other at the crane.
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I think what you are forgetting, is the water. Flat water is the GPS nightmare. In the rough, it is not even a factor. If those boats in Chattanooga were all wide open on that long flat coarse, half of them would have exploded. Our attrition rate is minimal due to chipping back the engines. This is the reason for the number of boats at the events. Example Papa Dukes ran two complete seasons on One motor, and it's still running. We are after good competitive racing while keeping the costs minimal. Answer is more rough water, but then you destroy the hulls.
The problem in Offshore has always been the constant changing of rules and equipment. There has never been any consistancy. Well guess what....as far as OPA goes....Consistancy rules. NO CHANGES ON MY WATCH............Smitty |
I think there are a lot of boats in OPA that are in there limites..I think its up to the officals to make the call if a boat is sandbagging or propped so far down with big HP that there acceleration is so quick that no boat stands a chance, It shoud be up to the officals to make the call to move that boat up in class or add weight....
We have had great racing in Class 3 this year and both us and Wanted can not hit the 95 mph speed... I think you are right on the acceleration numbers.....to water test a boat is good for the sport to keep the boats in line....but checking the acceleration speed is just as important...keeping those numbers some what close to all other boats in that class would make it much better racing.... With a possible brake down of: Class 6 - 50 to 70 mph acc. time Class 5 - 55 to 75 mph acc. time Class 4 - 65 to 85 mph acc. time Class 3 - 75 to 95 mph acc. time Class 2 - 75 to 100 mph acc. time Class 1 - 80 to 110 mph acc. time If there were a big differance in acceleration times from one boat whos is always winning to the rest of the fleet....that would be something to look at.... Just my opinion..... |
Originally Posted by THEJOKER
(Post 2307226)
All good points taken but no speed restrictions. Let the best prepared team win. Surely somebody can make this happen. Keep the motors simple enough so we can afford them and they will last. Rough water will be the equalizer in the end!
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My question is, why fix something that isn't broken?
In rough water, the GPS works pretty much to see if you have completed your laps and stayed on the course. In flat water it requires concentration to keep your speed under control. So whats the problem? OPA has had a perfect year, safe, well attended and growing larger every minute, while still remaining a group that helps one and other and still laughs and has a good time. If these A class and Spec classes and other systems were the answer why are they gone? I'm not knocking anyones opinions, I just think time would be better spent helping Smitty with whats working right now. Louie the Rigger "Strictly Business 206" Class 2 National Champions Chattanooga Mile Speed Record Holders and Course Record Holders PS gotta go get a new helmet, this one shrunk! |
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