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KenD 11-17-2007 10:13 AM

2008 Offshore Racing Schedule
 
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As anounced by each respective orgaization:

2 Trick Rick 11-17-2007 10:44 AM

Why is OPA's Point Pleasant race the same weekend as the SBI New York City race again...

I would have liked to race outside the OPA in 08 a couple times and the NC, and NY race would have been perfect, Come on people, work together......:angry-smiley-055:

BlakeandBrock 11-17-2007 10:46 AM

Wow, a lot of florida races!

Pete B 11-17-2007 01:11 PM

Ken,
Why is the miami date different from the one you posted in the sbi section?? And if POPRA is racing with OSS why not fill in those dates for OSS???

KenD 11-17-2007 01:52 PM

Pete,

Thanks for spotting the Miami date discrepancy. It has been corrected.

The dates shown on this list are from announcements from the various organizations as as of 11/16/2007. OSS has not made any announcements regarding their race dates for 2008. When they do announce their race dates, I will revise this post accordingly.

POPRA announced their race dates with notations regarding OSS, Catalina, and Hydro's....therefore the notations have been included. POPRA also mentioned a race in Las Vegas for October but did not give a firm date, therefore it was not included. When POPRA announces a date for Las Vegas, the schedule will be updated.

Ken

KenD 11-28-2007 04:35 PM

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There has been a schedule change per the request of K Cooper for Lake Havasu to the weekend of 4/25-4/27

Click on attached PDF file above or the one below for latest schedule.

BTW...no dates from Pro Series...yet

MANITIE 11-28-2007 06:07 PM

2 Trick.....its because these are dates have been in effect for years for there sites...you will sometimes have this...but its not because they don't want to work together....

TeamTaboo 11-28-2007 09:28 PM

I would like to see the NY race date moved off the 9/11 weekend a lot less headaches. In 08 it is a few days earlier, maybe on a different date we could have safety in the air.

2 Trick Rick 11-29-2007 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by MANITIE (Post 2351818)
2 Trick.....its because these are dates have been in effect for years for there sites...you will sometimes have this...but its not because they don't want to work together....

Understandable.. But I was looking forward to running a couple SBI events in 2008 and the Keys, you know get my moneys worth. Paying all that Registration fees for 1 event seems like a waste.

MANITIE 11-29-2007 11:21 AM

I see your point....why not make the trip with us to Miami....I fugure buy March you will be sick of the cold...and leave the boat down there with the rest of us and do another race till OPA starts there season.....

Let us know if we can help out...

KenD 11-29-2007 02:45 PM

Gino or Smitty,

Do you know how many OPA Teams raced in KW? It would be an awfull shame for them not to get full use of their registration. Let's see if we can't do something about that....give me some numbers.

MANITIE 11-29-2007 02:58 PM

Hey Ken,

The number I got was 23 OPA teams....but that was teams that were registerd with OPA...THEY MAY HAVE ALSO BEEN REG. with other Orgs also....

I'm shooting a IM to ya....

Wahoo ATV 11-30-2007 08:25 AM

Probably a stupid question, but is the equipment fee paid on my bat boat transferrable to my fountain?

Elite Carrier Group 11-30-2007 09:11 AM

i believe if it runs in the same class it may be transferrable due to "replacement boat" because boat is broken or so forth but if its a different class i dont believe it is transferrable because it is not a replacement.. i may be wrong so dont quote me on it but i believe thats the way it works...call sbi they are very helpful..www.superboat.com

Wazzup Racing 12-02-2007 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by KenD (Post 2352970)
Gino or Smitty,

Do you know how many OPA Teams raced in KW? It would be an awfull shame for them not to get full use of their registration. Let's see if we can't do something about that....give me some numbers.

If you could get past the security issues in NY and put choppers and divers in the air, it might be different. I am not alone when I say I will not run a canopy boat in the black Hudson river, without divers in the air. It is no cake walk running that coarse.

KenD 12-02-2007 03:27 PM

Smitty,

Do you have a date for the new Michigan race so I can update the schedule?

MANITIE 12-03-2007 08:00 AM

Hey Ken,

So whats you thinking.....what do you think we might be able to do....throw some ideas out there and lets see what we can do....

KenD 12-03-2007 10:00 AM

I'm thinking...and thinking.....and thinking.....I'll let you know....maybe I'm dreaming.


Wonder when the other schedules will be out...does everybody have a enough places to race? There is a whole lot of space on the left side of the sheet...and down the middle too.

Better get busy guys...before Smitty takes another trip and every weekend is booked.

KenD 12-04-2007 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Smitty
If you could get past the security issues in NY and put choppers and divers in the air, it might be different. I am not alone when I say I will not run a canopy boat in the black Hudson river, without divers in the air.


Like a lot of people, at one time I thought that you needed a helicopter to get the Safety/Rescue Divers in the water as quickly as possible. That was before I was enlightened by someone on the Safety/Rescue team and told that deployment of the personnel from the helicopter should be the last thing to expect in the event of an incident. I’m sure my face had the same bewildered look that many who are reading this have. As my eyes lost their daze, my Safety Angel explained:

On-water Safety/Rescue would be the first in the water to assist in an extraction…if necessary…and helicopter personnel would only jump if additional assistance was not available from other on-water resources. The helicopter personnel would stay in the air in case they where needed at another incident later.

I had never really thought about it…but it does make sense….once the helicopter divers are in the water, they can’t just get back in the helicopter and be ready for the next incident. Once they jump from the helicopter, the resource is expended and they are no longer avalible for the rest of the race. However, on-water personnel can re-board their Safety/Rescue boat to continue their watch and be ready for the next incident.

The Safety Angle explained that the primary advantage of a helicopter is that it can get from one location on the racecourse to another very quickly. This quick response time reduces the number of Safety/Rescue teams needed to meet the anticipated response time to an incident. The larger and more turns in the racecourse, the more Safety/Rescue teams you need to cover it. That's one reason why SBI prefers the rectangular box racecourse...it's safer than the multi-turn courses. So…the bottom line is...if you have a helicopter, you don’t need as many Safety/Rescue teams on the water.

In order to adequately cover a racecourse, at least one Safety/Rescue team should be able to get to any part of the racecourse in less than…I think he said…three minutes. Safety/Rescue teams are normally stationed near the turns, because that is where most incidents occur.

At races like New York,(a rectangular box racecourse) where there aren’t any helicopters, the response time stays the same. The only difference is the number of Safety/Rescue teams assigned to boats stationed around the racecourse. In New York, there are enough Safety/Rescue boats that a minimum of two boats can respond to any location on the racecourse within the targeted time.

I was told that the main thing to rememberis…the primary objective is to get to an incident as quickly as possible…it’s all about response time…not how the Safety/Rescue team gets there.

I trust these guys…they are professionals…and if our Safety Team says the racecourse is safe…it’s safe….even if I wouldn’t drink the water.

Wazzup Racing 12-04-2007 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by KenD (Post 2357235)
I'm thinking...and thinking.....and thinking.....I'll let you know....maybe I'm dreaming.


Wonder when the other schedules will be out...does everybody have a enough places to race? There is a whole lot of space on the left side of the sheet...and down the middle too.

Better get busy guys...before Smitty takes another trip and every weekend is booked.

Funny Guy, I am on my way to Ohio. Ya never know.

Wazzup Racing 12-04-2007 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by KenD (Post 2359022)
Like a lot of people, at one time I thought that you needed a helicopter to get the Safety/Rescue Divers in the water as quickly as possible. That was before I was enlightened by someone on the Safety/Rescue team and told that deployment of the personnel from the helicopter should be the last thing to expect in the event of an incident. I’m sure my face had the same bewildered look that many who are reading this have. As my eyes lost their daze, my Safety Angel explained:

On-water Safety/Rescue would be the first in the water to assist in an extraction…if necessary…and helicopter personnel would only jump if additional assistance was not available from other on-water resources. The helicopter personnel would stay in the air in case they where needed at another incident later.

I had never really thought about it…but it does make sense….once the helicopter divers are in the water, they can’t just get back in the helicopter and be ready for the next incident. Once they jump from the helicopter, the resource is expended and they are no longer avalible for the rest of the race. However, on-water personnel can re-board their Safety/Rescue boat to continue their watch and be ready for the next incident.

The Safety Angle explained that the primary advantage of a helicopter is that it can get from one location on the racecourse to another very quickly. This quick response time reduces the number of Safety/Rescue teams needed to meet the anticipated response time to an incident. The larger and more turns in the racecourse, the more Safety/Rescue teams you need to cover it. That's one reason why SBI prefers the rectangular box racecourse...it's safer than the multi-turn courses. So…the bottom line is...if you have a helicopter, you don’t need as many Safety/Rescue teams on the water.

In order to adequately cover a racecourse, at least one Safety/Rescue team should be able to get to any part of the racecourse in less than…I think he said…three minutes. Safety/Rescue teams are normally stationed near the turns, because that is where most incidents occur.

At races like New York,(a rectangular box racecourse) where there aren’t any helicopters, the response time stays the same. The only difference is the number of Safety/Rescue teams assigned to boats stationed around the racecourse. In New York, there are enough Safety/Rescue boats that a minimum of two boats can respond to any location on the racecourse within the targeted time.

I was told that the main thing to rememberis…the primary objective is to get to an incident as quickly as possible…it’s all about response time…not how the Safety/Rescue team gets there.

I trust these guys…they are professionals…and if our Safety Team says the racecourse is safe…it’s safe….even if I wouldn’t drink the water.

Ken, my intent was never to slight the SBI safety, I have competed in a ton of thier races. Safety is always first. Just that Hudson river, well it aint pretty.

KenD 12-04-2007 03:13 PM

Agreed....but, New York City....there's nothing like it.

Have a safe trip....and good luck.

Wazzup Racing 12-04-2007 03:16 PM

Not when you grew up there

MANITIE 12-04-2007 03:22 PM

Is it true....if a BEE's wings get wet..they can't fly....or swim for that matter...

Now Ken...get back to work and put something together....

So you know...I paying Puff a visit this week....time to give Puff the anesthesia shoot so we can start the work.....he'll be under the whole time....

KenD 12-04-2007 04:06 PM

Can't fly...but they can swim...lots of short strokes...just can't do the back stroke.

Still....you gotta watch out for that stinger....Bumble Bees do not like to get wet.

MANITIE 12-04-2007 04:07 PM

Now I know your weakness....

OffshoreRescue 12-05-2007 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Wazzup Racing (Post 2359030)
Funny Guy, I am on my way to Ohio. Ya never know.

If it's Northern Ohio, I trust you are gonna call, and we are getting together for some drinks, etc?

TeamTaboo 12-05-2007 07:05 AM

Ken I agree with Smitty, they are the best. I just like the idea that most of the time they are already overhead, that is some very black water

KenD 12-05-2007 11:44 AM

Bill,

I do understand your concerns. I feel the same way about racing in shallow water such as Biloxi. Something in the back of your mind just keeps telling you not to push it too hard.

Looks like overall, Racers have a lot of really good choices and options for 2008. I'm looking forward to seeing you and your family at as many venues as our paths may cross.

Until then,

Happy Holidays, and may Peace be with you.

Ken

KenD 12-12-2007 07:16 PM

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OSS Dates have been added to the schedule:

TeamTaboo 12-12-2007 07:34 PM

The best for the Holidays, See ya soon


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