Hmmmm.

I don't think you could do a supercat style mystic, its dimensions are a little to big for that... now Class 1 power level/setup would be interesting to see what it would do. I am guessing as soon as a customer wants one, we will find out what it can do with power like that.

the Nauti Marine Mystic runs pretty well with the little Mercs in it (little be relative to what usually is in it :drink:)

catmando,

1)
Skater people are loyal to their brand. I would hope and expect they argue against the statement I made.

For the record, I respect Pete and his product. Both are originals. :-)
Pete Hledin is one of those pioneers in this industry, who is entitled to claim an original design. His products have been splashed as well.

2)
If an independent panel of professionals would come to the conclusion that the Mystic 50 is not a splash of the 43 Tencara, I will issue a full page formal apology in both Powerboat Magazine and Performance Boats magazine. Needless to say, I would not have made the statement, if I would think there is a risk of having to print a retraction.

Andreas

Jolly Motors was a Michael Peters Design, built by Tencara. It became the Callan Marine boat before Mystic built there 50 which was the Miss Longlite, now the Miss Geico. Victory is also the Michael peters design which they build in house so is Platinum. Out of all of them, the Mystic is the fastest and handles the best.
The controversy here is the John Cosker, founder of Mystic, throttled for Callan Marine so someone got it in their head that since he has seat time in a Michael Peters boat and is himself a Naval Architect, he must have copied it on a giant Xerox or something and then out popped a 50 Mystic. I would like to see a Xerox machine that big, although it must be broken because the boats are very differnt, not just becasue of the 2 foot difference either. I think class 1 tunnel width is 72". Supercat is 66"

Guilty until proven innocent??? Thats a great philosophy. Watch the videos from the LOTO Shootout in 04 with the Tencara and in 05 with the Mystic and see how much better the Mystic rides.
Maybe you can answer this for me.
Why did Cintron go from a Platinum to a Mystic???

This is hilarious........

T2x

First off, it would have been 3D scanning that "may" have been used - the Xerox statement is very childish. With all due respect to Mr. Cosker, why does the Mystic look so much like the Platinum Tencara if its "not" a copy? Yeah, so he made a few changes here and there to try to call it his own, but it is obviously a close resemblance in every way so I tend to believe he did copy the Tencara...and i think that is what T2x is finding so funny, its so obvious.

Now that takes balls to put on a forum!

LostinBoston,

your ideas are amusing! :-)

The scanning equipment of Brian Jones, the individual who scanned the 43 Tencara for John Cosker, will probably fit in the back of your car.

The APBA Supercat rules indeed have the tunnel width restricted to 66 inches. UIM Class 1 does not have this tunnel width restriction, so these boats, including the 43 Tencara, have a wider tunnel.

Andreas

Ok don't beat me up here but I'm not a Naval Architect so here goes. How different can a 200 mph offshore cats be? At those speeds, I would think that there is a rather standard length to width ratio of the sponsons and boat. Also it would appear that the amount of lift a tunnel makes could be easily calculated with software. So my point is there is a reason Formula 1 cars, fighter plane wings and shapes etc are all nearly identical. I would think it is not that hard to "design" the perfect shape the trick is to tune it perfectly.

So how far off am I?