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purrfection 04-29-2012 06:41 PM

The Gratton Twins-P1
 
We hope all is well after your roll over in Biloxi.

Xtremeracing 04-29-2012 08:10 PM

I heard they were OK.

Wahoo ATV 04-30-2012 10:02 AM

Glad to hear they are OK.

What's up with those boats?

gbochis 05-01-2012 07:55 AM

Thats the negative to a one design class. All the boats are the same, so the only way to gain speed is max trim and make tightest and the fastest possible turn. If you are going to race boats like they are sprint cars they are going to behave like sprint cars. Better order some wings for down force.

AugiePensa 05-01-2012 09:09 AM

Glad to hear the Boyz are OK

Wahoo ATV 05-01-2012 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by gbochis (Post 3676450)
Thats the negative to a one design class. All the boats are the same, so the only way to gain speed is max trim and make tightest and the fastest possible turn. If you are going to race boats like they are sprint cars they are going to behave like sprint cars. Better order some wings for down force.

Or run a bat boat. They come with wings. Not sure if it has only been driver error. Class 6 runs the same speeds and I can't remember a rollover.

TeamSaris 05-01-2012 09:42 AM

Maybe they handle as bad as they look lol

2 Trick Rick 05-01-2012 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 3676534)
Maybe they handle as bad as they look lol

:whistle:

screammachine 05-01-2012 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV (Post 3676511)
Or run a bat boat. They come with wings. Not sure if it has only been driver error. Class 6 runs the same speeds and I can't remember a rollover.

Hold a class 6 wide open and try to turn it tight, see what happens. If you let off all in the p1 superstock class you will have a loss in your column. You don't have the power to make it up. That has been my experience anyway. Jeffrey McCann

2 Trick Rick 05-01-2012 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by screammachine (Post 3677077)
Hold a class 6 wide open and try to turn it tight, see what happens. If you let off all in the p1 superstock class you will have a loss in your column. You don't have the power to make it up. That has been my experience anyway. Jeffrey McCann

If you think we "slow" down in turns your mistaken. our boat can and does handle 70mph turns wide open, if you let off even for a second your a boat behind...

I'm I saying we are better drivers than some of the p1 teams? Hell no.. Those guys have more races under there belts than multiple teams combined. So if its not the teams there is only one thing left ........

Xtremeracing 05-02-2012 06:56 AM

For what ever reason its happening they need to take a look at it and make some changes more of the same isnt good.

The Bat Boat might be something P1 sould look at they r much safer for sure .

Wahoo ATV 05-02-2012 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by screammachine (Post 3677077)
Hold a class 6 wide open and try to turn it tight, see what happens. If you let off all in the p1 superstock class you will have a loss in your column. You don't have the power to make it up. That has been my experience anyway. Jeffrey McCann

:lolhit: Seriously? Have been in or even watched an OPA Class 6 race?

screammachine 05-02-2012 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV (Post 3677452)
:lolhit: Seriously? Have been in or even watched an OPA Class 6 race?

no but when I do come I'm bringing my class 6 boat and hope I can learn from you Wahoo. Jeffrey mccann

Wahoo ATV 05-02-2012 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by screammachine (Post 3677648)
no but when I do come I'm bringing my class 6 boat and hope I can learn from you Wahoo. Jeffrey mccann

You won't learn from me, I'm retired. But if you let off for the corner you are going to learn from the rest of the fleet.

Wazzup Racing 05-02-2012 02:25 PM

It's a spec class boat, without enough power,typical.
Gotta run them loose, and they don't have the power to set them.

Example, our 38 Fountain is easier to drive and race with twin 750's than it is with 525's.
The motors need to drive the boat. Not the boat drive the motors.

Throw in some aggresive steps.....and presto. Fish bowl

Wazzup Racing 05-02-2012 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by screammachine (Post 3677648)
no but when I do come I'm bringing my class 6 boat and hope I can learn from you Wahoo. Jeffrey mccann

I'll school ya......Whatup Jeffery

screammachine 05-02-2012 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Wazzup Racing (Post 3677704)
I'll school ya......Whatup Jeffery


i will love to be schooled by you master, i'm trying to find a race i can come to with my machine. Great analogy Smitty, they need power to turn, when they start to slide , you DO NOT LET OUT OF THE POWER! its hard to turn anything w/out power. Looking forward to seeing you Smitty. Jeffrey McCann

cookee 05-17-2012 07:51 AM

I don't know a thing about other US classes but I can tell you that they fall over in the UK as well (they also have problems keeping them in one piece).

............. and I think they're ugly too!


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