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Steve and Bjorn Double up Pole and race win.
Our boat Hydrolift 99 gets 3rd in the Med Cup. Not bad for one of the oldest boats in the fleet.
pat W
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What kind of speeds are they running in class 1 in UIM?

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Very Cool! Congrats. Augie

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Great showing.

I used to follow that Class when they were on Speed Channel.

How many are still in the class.??? Are the Victory 1 & 2 still wiinning??

Again, Congrats.. :)

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The average lap speeds are significantly higher than our Supercats. I think they are between 120 - 130 with top race speeds about 140.

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There are 10 - 11 teams this year. The Victory team boats are currently 2nd & 4th in the Championship points. This season and last have been dominated (understatement) by Steve Curtis and the Spirit of Norway team.

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They try to take advantage of "ram effect". That type setup (intake sealed to engine vs. engine room as plenum)is not permitted under our rules. Two years ago Jim Dyke ran an identical setup at the APBA Worlds in KW but I don't think he was eligible to win.

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They are running an air restricter at 64mm to reduce hp and control the speeds.

The Europeans would come over and play but the rules ban shaft type boats. The ideas behind unification should include uniting the boat racing world.

Lambo is pulling out soon and there needs to be a change done now.
pat W

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Shaft drives are legal in APBA & SBI (w/ 300 lbs penalty). OSS has also allowed Gary Nichols (Live Bait) to run with a weight penalty (300 lbs I think). The real issue is tunnel width. All 3 domestic sanctioning bodies require a maximum tunnel width of 66". All C1 boats (past & present) have tunnels wider than (Jotun cut their Scism and widened it) 66". In fact, most are around 70" and some as wide as 74". Our rules should be as simple as theirs. They have length and minimum weight. Tunnel width is not contemplated...and shouldn't be.

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Can't make the north trip but will be in Sarasota. Tested today and everything seems great.

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Polli's boat is the sister boat of Callan/Jolly Motors and The other Spirit of Norway (Dyke) is one of the Austrailians boats now. I thought all of them had the small tunnels.

What is the width of Callan?

pat W

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We're 70". The wider tunnel is more stable (safer) than the 66" tunnel (IMHO). I'll agree in advance that at a point wider is not stable. I'd say that 74" is pushing it.

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We're (Callan Marine/Jolly Motor)the smallest at 70". Jotun's Tencara was slightly wider at 72" (I recall) and I suspect the the old Spirit tencara is 72" based on how it carries the bow. We liked the fact that Jolly Motor always ran a bit flat on the racecourse (i.e. top speed about 165). On the kilo course it is highly stable at speeds in the 200's.

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It looked very impressive last year in Marathon. Tunnel width in my opinion was a way to keep the european boats from comming over. That should be abolished.
pat W

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Couldn't agree more...how about everybody adopting a length spec of 40 -44 feet and a minimum weight of 9500lbs? Optimally, I'd opt for a lighter minimum weight and put pressure on hull manufacturers to build lighter boats. It's all about HP to weight...lighter boats will go faster with a given hp...hp is more expensive than lightweight laminates. Things have changed...carbon fiber laminate schedules can be economically neutral...Jolly Motor is 10 years old and has no structural wear, has had three different power plants.... including a 6000hp setup and recently ran over 210mph. Why invest in big power when you can invest in a light weight hull that will last a decade and run up front with docile power?

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We had an average a lap speed of 151 and had a top speed of 197 on the straightaway...

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OSS let Live Bait run in Biloxi with a 750lb penilty. It still ran up front (until they broke) even with the added wieght.

Shifter, say hello to my Uncle Eddie for me.

Ron Polli

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Ron,

I could be wrong but I think they cut the weight penalty in half after testing. I think he raced with 375lbs of "parity weight".

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When will the Lombo pull out of C-1.It may be time to look at a mew engine package. A tall deck 600ci or 632ci GM BBC with a spec heads and 11to 1 cr.
and rev limit to 6400rpm.This engine will make the same power as the current 500ci.S/Cat engine running at 7400rpm.and last much longer and this will cut the cost of racing.
Dave

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Tachyon,

Logic seems to escape the racing community. What is good for racing seems to be forgotten. Sometimes it looks like they really do not want competition but they want a trophy. Less boats you do not have to be that good. I have been watching the politics in offshore since 1988. In 1988 at a typical uim race we had 28 class 1 boats. Now it is down to 11. I still see no reason for it to go back up unless they go away from the current direction of rules. There are a lot of motor builders and manufactures like myself that made up the rest of the field that they are missing. Cost is an issue that everyone is using as an excuse. Competition breeds cost reduction. Exclusivity means price increase. A supercat engine went from 27,000 to 45,000 in one year. I hope that the uim/sbi/apba/oss/.... can get together in one room and have some dialog to getting the sport pointed in one direction.

Dwes,
Audi/Lambo announced this year that they were pulling the plug. I am sure that the details are somewhere. I will see if I can get more info on that.

Ron,
I hope to make it over this year to see him and the rest but we are burried.

pat W

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Pat

I also have watched this for a long time racing a super boat and don't understand it.Innovation is what brings people into racing.Like your drive and shaft drive rudder boats.My new rudder boat is sitting for that reason.I am building a new shaft drive system and would like to race S/Cat with it.But for now rigging it with 1450hp blower motors to see how fast it will go.

Dave W