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turbo rr 08-03-2021 08:41 PM

Help! Never financed one before...
 
So....I went for a ride with a buddy in a 35 motion with a pair of 750's. First time in a inboard cat that runs over 100 and I am hooked!!! I have been looking at a couple in the 165k - 185k range. I usually wait until I can afford my toys without financing, but I am realizing that I am not getting any younger and I will like to enjoy it now and don't mind financing.

I own a 2006 triple engine 38 center console outright
I own a 2001 21 Cat outright
All of my cars are paid off around 100k
Mortgage will be paid off
6 credit cards all with 6k balance on one of them (can be paid off if necessary)
Credit score 785

Do you guys think I can get financing for about 170k boat with about 1/2 down? (financing amount around 80k) Boat will be around 2005 to 2008.
Live in florida, don't know if it makes a difference

boomer 08-04-2021 06:45 AM

your best interest rate will be a equity loan

Coryfred 08-04-2021 08:19 AM

Chris at Costal Financial is awesome to work with.

Chris Hungerink

Coastal Financial Corp.

194 S. River Ave., Suite 1

Holland, MI 49423

ph: (616) 494-2628

fax: (616) 494-2629

email: [email protected]


TexomaPowerboater 08-04-2021 09:08 AM

I don't see why you wouldn't qualify with that kind of equity cushion in the boat for the bank to work with assuming income/debt ratio checked out.

outta control 08-04-2021 09:09 AM

Check out lightstream easy to deal with and great rates.

1MOSES1 08-04-2021 01:25 PM

as mentioned…best option with lowest interest rate will be a home equity (by a long shot).

next would likely be a credit union, but I doubt they would finance 80k without asking a lot of questions.

the boat and toy financing options are incredibly expensive. I’d use them as a last resort.

just my 0.02

Griff 08-04-2021 04:42 PM

You better find insurance before you buy. The insurance could easily be more than the boat payments.

turbo rr 08-04-2021 07:05 PM

Thanks for the info. I will give a call to the recommended business to get a feel. What do you guys think a ballpark would be for insurance?

Diamond Dave 08-04-2021 07:36 PM

Credit union hands down. I tried the specialized marine finance places you will be referred to and no bueno way too many restrictions and hoops to jump. Literally walked in to a local credit union this April I was not a member of and two weeks later had a loan for my Supercat. They did not care if it went 20 mph or 180 mph as long as I showed them the value was there. It was almost too easy lol.

turbo rr 08-04-2021 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Diamond Dave (Post 4800326)
Credit union hands down. I tried the specialized marine finance places you will be referred to and no bueno way too many restrictions and hoops to jump. Literally walked in to a local credit union this April I was not a member of and two weeks later had a loan for my Supercat. They did not care if it went 20 mph or 180 mph as long as I showed them the value was there. It was almost too easy lol.

I was thinking of joining one and putting some cash every month to build a relationship and applying. What you did is what I was thinking also.

BTW.....are we talking 3600 or 43 Supercat? If so....the 3600, that is what is on my radar!

Diamond Dave 08-05-2021 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by turbo rr (Post 4800337)
I was thinking of joining one and putting some cash every month to build a relationship and applying. What you did is what I was thinking also.

BTW.....are we talking 3600 or 43 Supercat? If so....the 3600, that is what is on my radar!

I was figuring I would have to do the same to build a relationship with them but nope. Actually, previous to that I was going to finance it with US bank (which would have done it even on the High Performance Supercat they started to finance boats again) but they wanted 6 months of banking history with them. I didn't have to put anything in my new credit union account to get it done. They also told me initially that they would only do a 2007+ but when I told them I was looking at some older ones they were willing to make an exception for a few years back as long as the value was there so don't be afraid to have them ask underwriting.

Yes we are talking about a 3600 Supercat which is what I ended up with. If you haven't seen one in person they are absolutely incredible!! You aren't going to find many insurance companies that will write it unless you can "sneak" it under their radar which may be an issue if you had a claim I'm not sure just be prepared to bend over for the one or two companies that do write them.


phragle 08-05-2021 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by outta control (Post 4800233)
Check out lightstream easy to deal with and great rates.

i second lightstream. Im about the same credit score. Zero balance on 6 cards. Only thing outstanding is the house which is 2/3 paid off. Was trying to get a loan on a Mercedes with a lemon title. They didnt care about the car, just straight up gave me a personal loan at 4% so i have the car and title. Super easy to deal with .Now they keel trying to offer me more money. Lol

Griff 08-05-2021 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by turbo rr (Post 4800321)
Thanks for the info. I will give a call to the recommended business to get a feel. What do you guys think a ballpark would be for insurance?

First Time cat owner and in Florida, you'd be lucky to be under 10k/year and most likely would be required to take the Tres Martin High Perf boat school.

Diamond Dave 08-05-2021 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4800434)
First Time cat owner and in Florida, you'd be lucky to be under 10k/year and most likely would be required to take the Tres Martin High Perf boat school.

I was told I didn't HAVE to take Tres class but the rate is much higher without taking it. I will say that it is money WELL spent for anyone wondering.

silver93t 08-09-2021 10:58 AM

When I looked into this the best rates were through a home equity line of credit. Basically you are using the equity in your house to finance whatever you want. Usually the bank will ask what you plan to do with the funds but once approved they really don't care. As you pay it off that line of credit is again available for a new purchase as long as you are within the draw period. In my case I was going to use it to redo my bulkhead and install a boat lift. Then pay some off and fund the purchase of a boat. With close to half down on a $100k boat the payments would have been under $600/month. Keep in mine that most traditional boat loans won't finance anything 20 years old. In your case that may not be an issue as you stated you were looking newer. Shop around and see what works best for your situation.

turbo rr 08-09-2021 02:44 PM

I don't want to touch the home....it does make sense to refi, but I just have that sense of security that if something happens to me the house cant be touched. I am thinking to wait a few months more and get more of a down payment and use a credit union and maybe finance something like 50k. Never know.....boat prices just might come down!!!!!!!!mLOL

silver93t 08-09-2021 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by turbo rr (Post 4800950)
I don't want to touch the home....it does make sense to refi, but I just have that sense of security that if something happens to me the house cant be touched. I am thinking to wait a few months more and get more of a down payment and use a credit union and maybe finance something like 50k. Never know.....boat prices just might come down!!!!!!!!mLOL

Understandable. At this point it is late in the season so depending where you live it might be worth to wait and try to snag a deal over the winter.

Quinlan 08-10-2021 07:38 AM

In 08 when I bought the T/S- I had over 50% down on $150k boat. All of my banking was w Bank of America for 30+ years prior. 2 houses, cars and several other things all paid off.
Went there for loan and was denied. over 800 credit. Went to local bank BOK and was approved and we didn't even have any money w them at the time.
As soon as I was approved I went back to BoA and withdrew every cent I had in their bank and have never looked back. Much nicer having a bank that is local and acts like they care, personal banker for any business issues. Very helpful w the PPP.

Of course 08 was right at the start of the housing/banking crash so maybe that had a little to do with it as BoA was in the ringer lol

silver93t 08-10-2021 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4801052)
In 08 when I bought the T/S- I had over 50% down on $150k boat. All of my banking was w Bank of America for 30+ years prior. 2 houses, cars and several other things all paid off.
Went there for loan and was denied. over 800 credit. Went to local bank BOK and was approved and we didn't even have any money w them at the time.
As soon as I was approved I went back to BoA and withdrew every cent I had in their bank and have never looked back. Much nicer having a bank that is local and acts like they care, personal banker for any business issues. Very helpful w the PPP.

Of course 08 was right at the start of the housing/banking crash so maybe that had a little to do with it as BoA was in the ringer lol

I'm about to do the same with Wells Fargo. Been with them over 25 years. My business grosses well over 7 figures, similar credit score. The big banks are difficult to work with and not just for financing things. Hard to get anyone on the phone, need to set up appointments for everything, replacement debit cards take a week to receive. I've been moving my things over to Affinity.

F-2 Speedy 08-10-2021 10:23 AM

Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Chase Manhattan are all crooks.......:D

carnutsx2 08-10-2021 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4800434)
First Time cat owner and in Florida, you'd be lucky to be under 10k/year and most likely would be required to take the Tres Martin High Perf boat school.

$10,000 US a year for insurance?

Griff 08-10-2021 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by carnutsx2 (Post 4801082)
$10,000 US a year for insurance?

Yes. I have a friend who said he was around 16k/yr for a newer V bottom with 1350's.


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