Anybody Remember this one?
 

Heard it was on craigslist or something up north a while back.

Its been for sale in Toledo Ohio for some time, and on boat trader. It also was on ebay, did not sell, She is ruff !!!

Yeah, but has anybody seen it?

We had some post on this some time ago. Bud [mr vinyl]may have looked at this or new about it ????

Yeah, I lost bud's number, but I sent him a message to call me.

Is that the old "Red Baron" from the East side of Cleveland in the late 70s early 80s?

Who has seen this boat
 

That is not the Red Barron...it was a great clean looking boat. Bud

I could be wrong, but with that trailer, it looks alot like the one that was for sale in CT about 2 years ago...I could shoot myself...the guy wanted 6k for it...but id did not have bottom paing and the drives were still volvo white...

Different boat. I looked at this one the other day. It is very rough. I think the guy paid a lot of money for it. I offered him 7500, which is to much, but he wouldn't take it. Drives are absolute junk.

I wanted to convert to single engine. Like my race boat.

Here is the Red Baron.

That's it. Still in NE Ohio?

The pic is from 1973 or 74, at the Mentor Yacth Club. Today ??????

Found an old pic from '82 ?? Running on Lake Erie between Mentor Harbor and Fairport Harbor

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...aronMedium.jpg

Great shot!....thanks!

Leaving for Key West this week, many of my Ohio friends will be there. I might be able to find out more info on this Mag and others.

I was planning to go look at this boat tomorrow or Wednesday. The current owner and I have been talking via email, but I haven't seen it in person yet.

We were talking about trading. I have a 1989 21' Scarab Excel that is ready for the water. It's all original. A bit faded, but has 320 original hours and runs excellent. I had it out all summer this year, and just had it out last weekend actually.

I know this Magnum needs work (from the pics), but if anyone that has seen it or has real knowledge of it could let me know their opinion I would GREATLY appreciate it.

Thank you!!

I looked at it a month ago or so. Boat needs to be gutted and started from srcatch. Both sets of volvos are junk, so you will need to budget a set of drives of some sort. Engines might run, but guy made an excuse about someone stealing his batteries, but that may not be to far fetched considering it is not stored in a secure location. Boat has been wreced and patched. You can see eveidence on starbord front side. Deck is cracked and gel has been patched on hull sides.

Transom has been patched and sounds pretty bad. I have actually made a couple offers, It would make good project, but it will take a LOT of work.

About 10-15K project if the engines are good, sand you do all of glass and paintwork yourself, and salvage the drives.

He is saying he has some rebuilt drives he will include with the deal if I trade for my running 21' Scarab.

He's telling me that...with replacing the boot that's busted on the current drive it could be put in the water and run.

I was thinking that I could re-do the drives this month and then restore it section by section (interior, exterior, engines) throughout this winter by tossing a couple grand at it each month.

I (in theory) was hoping to get it in the water for under $1,000 after I got the boat. it might not be "pretty" to look at, but I can deal with cosmetics later. I just want it to run and be reliable while I get the cosmetics done over time.

Do you think (if I have rebuilt drives to install) - that my theory is feasible?

I mentioned the rebuilt drives and I don't think they are any good either. You will also have to find a set of props for it. the ones that are on it are not correct for those drives and the ones on the other drives will not be the right size. This guy got screwed by the guy he bought it from and he is looking for some one to dump it off on.

Honestly, I doubt you will get this thing in the water for less than 5K as it is. And that would be if you ignored major issues that most boat owners would not even consider. This boat has structural issues.

It is also a lot harder to insure than your current boat. You will have to get a survey on it and that will cost you money and I doubt any reputable surveyor will stamp it seaworthy. I saw all of these things and I never got into the cockpit.

Go see for yourself. This is not a fixer upper for a beginner, but hey we all start somwhere.

If you are just trying to move up to a bigger boat, there are much better ways of doing it. If you are trying to move up to a Magnum, there are better deals out there on running boats.

A running 21' scarab with a bravo and 454 is a pretty fast boat. BuyUBoy has one and his will almost hit 80. What is wrong with yours?

Ksims

Keep in mind though that I am picky and know (NOW) what I am looking for and what to look for in a project boat like this after buying many more BAD boats than the average guy.

I don't want to ruin your motivation or dream with my own opinions. Take a look at it for yourself and make your own determinations. To the rest of us, it would take a lot of money and time and LOVE to get this thing back together, but for some one else, they might just want a boat.

Good luck on your search. I don't think I would give up a running boat fo it though. I would buy it as a second so that you aren't missing the fun while you are fixing this one.