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Originally Posted by Conquistador
(Post 2887897)
I am in the process of restoring a 1973 27 sport. I am at the point of trying to figure out how to make it where I can drive while standing. The original floor height makes it way too high for this. I don't want to cut down the 18" center keel stringer or the 7 1/2" secondary stringers which provide the main longitudinal strength, so I am left with possibly making a cutout between the two. It looks like I could make a platform 8 1/2" below the normal floor level for standing. I am thinking about installing drop down bolster front seats with a hinged cutout in the floor that I could fold out of the way when I want to stand. Has anyone done this type setup or have any other ideas? Bill
Hello Bill I cut out the floor on my 27 Sport and then glassed in wood boxes that I made, I glassed the outside of the boxes and dropped the floor about 8 inches, I had a drop down bolster setup also. Used 3/4 marine plywood. The cut outs were only in the front of the cockpit where the seats would normally be, a little less then 2 feet long. The rest of the floor was kept at the standard height. Thank you Jim |
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Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 2888480)
were the floors lower on the race boats... seem deeper.
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Originally Posted by socalstone
(Post 2888599)
As someone on OS said a few years back..... "he sticks out like a boner in sweatpants!"
Originally Posted by Smarty
(Post 2888767)
I will try to post some pictures of the Hairy Canary's floor, it had floor cut-outs, which I loved. I could sit in the seat, or drop out the bottom seat, to make it a bolster when I was racing (or my father was racing), or wanted to stand when planing the boat.
I am in a sit down boat now, and I was used to/conditioned to drive that 27' Magnum with those floor-cut-outs, I prefer boating that way with the floor cut-outs, you can stand and sit lower, eat less wind (in theory, not in reality). My father was standing in this picture. Stephen Thanks for the picture and confirmation of the lower standing floor concept. I am obviously not the first one to think of it. Bill
Originally Posted by dammmagnum
(Post 2888841)
Hello Bill
I cut out the floor on my 27 Sport and then glassed in wood boxes that I made, I glassed the outside of the boxes and dropped the floor about 8 inches, I had a drop down bolster setup also. Used 3/4 marine plywood. The cut outs were only in the front of the cockpit where the seats would normally be, a little less then 2 feet long. The rest of the floor was kept at the standard height. Thank you Jim Did you cut down the center keel stringer or have two separate dropped areas? If you left the center keel, how much width did you leave in the standard height floor between the lowered sections? Any pictures?
Originally Posted by h2oboater
(Post 2888877)
My Magnum & Spirit all had the floor cut like DAMMMAGNUM said, 8" made a difference..
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I would make 2 sep drop ereas !!!!
With a neet hose atached so the water drains to the bilge. Also u can use plasticore 5/8.....plenty strong,rot free and very light. And loose the preshure treeded plywood that u have in there. OIL and RESIN don't like each other ,,it will still rot to. use marine ply and cut strips if u need the thicknes,,and glass over them. Just my 2 cents. Sorry |
Originally Posted by daredevil
(Post 2889453)
I would make 2 sep drop ereas !!!!
With a neet hose atached so the water drains to the bilge. Also u can use plasticore 5/8.....plenty strong,rot free and very light. And loose the preshure treeded plywood that u have in there. OIL and RESIN don't like each other ,,it will still rot to. use marine ply and cut strips if u need the thicknes,,and glass over them. Just my 2 cents. Sorry Does anyone here have some pictures of their dropped standing areas - preferably with hinged regular height floor doors or possibly removeable plates? I am still a little uncertain of how I want to address the regular floor. While sitting, would it be better to have the floor or possibly toeplates ahead of the driver/passenger? Bill |
Originally Posted by daredevil
(Post 2889453)
And loose the preshure treeded plywood that u have in there.
Sorry just todays spelling lesson:grinser010: |
Originally Posted by Conquistador
(Post 2889210)
Too funny!
Stephen, Thanks for the picture and confirmation of the lower standing floor concept. I am obviously not the first one to think of it. Bill Jim, Did you cut down the center keel stringer or have two separate dropped areas? If you left the center keel, how much width did you leave in the standard height floor between the lowered sections? Any pictures? I am sort of relieved to think that what I thought was a little radical turned out to be common practice. Yes, the 8.25" I will drop makes a huge difference as far as I can tell from standing there without even a dash console. Thanks At first, i was going to do two boxes and leave the center stringer, but then I didn't like the idea of some one straddling the stringer and decided to make one larger box and I cut the center stringer down and then glassed two pcs of plywood in both sides the stringer and placed the box in the opening and glassed it in. The box sat between the two side stringers and on top of the reinforced center stringer. I kept the flooring opening covers that came with the boat and just cut them down to the size of the new openings. it was set up for 3 person. Back then Roger Munn on the Jolly Roger Sport dropped his floor but it was set up as a 2 person boat and he had two boxes glassed in the floor and kept the center stringer intacted. I believe that Roger's drop boxes were pretty much the the size of some to stand in and had lot of the floor area remaining between the boxes. Roger is on this site and am sure he can add a lot more to it. Trying to remember back over 30 years ago Hope this helps Thank you Jim |
Originally Posted by dammmagnum
(Post 2889829)
Bill,
At first, i was going to do two boxes and leave the center stringer, but then I didn't like the idea of some one straddling the stringer and decided to make one larger box and I cut the center stringer down and then glassed two pcs of plywood in both sides the stringer and placed the box in the opening and glassed it in. The box sat between the two side stringers and on top of the reinforced center stringer. I kept the flooring opening covers that came with the boat and just cut them down to the size of the new openings. it was set up for 3 person. Back then Roger Munn on the Jolly Roger Sport dropped his floor but it was set up as a 2 person boat and he had two boxes glassed in the floor and kept the center stringer intacted. I believe that Roger's drop boxes were pretty much the the size of some to stand in and had lot of the floor area remaining between the boxes. Roger is on this site and am sure he can add a lot more to it. Trying to remember back over 30 years ago Hope this helps Thank you Jim Thanks again for the input. I think you could add enough strength to the center stringer by sistering like you did, but I am inclined to make two drop down areas instead of one larger standing sub-floor. I will never be racing mine offshore, but I want to keep the hull integrity while making this modification. I am still hoping someone can show some pictures of what they did. I am a long way from completion, but I wanted to get this part of the restoration behind me since it might influence other aspects. Thanks again, Bill |
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