Help to identify
 

Hello new to the forum. I've been searching for a while and have found what I've been told is a 27 foot 1968 Magnum. I was hoping someone on here could help me out on identifying it. Or if there is a hull identification some where on it. I have some photos I could send you. Having trouble trying to post them.

original color was yellow with "Smoker 1 S-33" down the sides

Thanks
John

John,
Welcome to OSO! You will find alot of great information here. Where did you find her? Condition? Engines-want e to here ALL the details! Please send me pics-I'd love to check them out and give you my opinion!
Bob
BOBG1060 @ netzero.com

Thanks Bob I sent you a quick email and pictures. You can post them here if you like

John,
I'm pretty sure this is NOT a Magnum. Sorry.
1) The strakes are different leading up to the bow. Check pics of the next two post here on the Magnum forum.
2) About 12" down from the deck the Magnums have a distinct "chine line" running the length of the hull-your boat does not have this.
3) Magnums have a true V, the picture of your boat's drive/bottom, has a rounded off V.
To me, it looks more like a Formula or a Seacraft. If you post this on the Classic Forum, "Brownie" use to work at Magnum- and a dozen other companies, and will be able to give you more information. In the 1970's the "S" would have ment that it raced in the Sports class. I'm sure others will post their thoughts...Sorry and can't re-post your pics, I'm sure someone else can help with this.
Good Luck!
Bob

great thanks for the info Bob

[ATTACH=CONFIG]519057[/ATTACH]Find the HIN # transom top right corner just below the rub rail, that will give you a clue. Bud

John,
I just found pics of an early 24 Formula, the pics you sent me are a dead ringer for the Formula.
If you are on Facebook, go to "Powerboat Swap Shop" there is pics of a classic Formula for sale by T. Rafael Cimino. This IS the hull you are asking about.
Bob

Bud,
I think that John said it was a it was 1968 Hull, , if I am not mistaken the hull/transom numbers (HIN #) didn't start to around 1973 or 1974
My 1973 Sport did not have a hull number (HIN#) on the Transom , it was marked under the dash module in black magic marker.

I could be wrong?

Thank you
jim

My Magnum also has the hull number on the bottom of the seats and inside the instrument cluster.

Cimino is on OSO as midocean if that helps. He is another OG that knows his stuff,

Thanks for all your help. I'll see if I can find any numbers on the hull. Thanks Bud I'm still trying to find the pictures of the Formula on face book.

Jim you are right, they transom # started in 1973. I have two 1973 Magnums & one 1973 X-18 Donzi they all have transom #. Ironhead has two magnums, Anaconda & Subluxator, the yellow Subluxator is a 1972 & no hull Id # on the transom. Here is a pic of her when new @ Emerald City from 1972.

Hey Mark abit off topic here, but i'm glad you posted some pictures of Subluxator with it's V windshield.........I have the same deck on my sport but without the original windshield.
Most V deck 27 sports i've seen look out of proportion with the high windshield, but Subluxator looks more in proportion.....is that a stock windshield?........Haven't decided on a windscreen yet, but Subluxator (with it's light colored hullside) carry's that windshield pretty nice!

Scippy,
That windshield looks identical to the one I removed from Time Flies. I still owe you the templates of what I built for my boat..... Just found them today, please send me your address again.

Direct email is best.... [email protected]

Pete that is a stock windshield, & Subluxator was the very first Mag Emerald city sold. Take a look at these Vee windshield Mags, the one with the bow rail looks real tall ??. Mark

The boat with the bow rail has a flat screen windshield, looks to be mounted where a Sport windscreen is installed, so the side panels are shorter with steeper angles . . . Top edge of that had to be "in your face" . This flat screen was usually used on some sedans . ..

Mario.....I didn't noticed that before in regards to the sport with the large flate windshield....I assumed it to be a V deck now it makes sense why height and angle are extreme.

Mark.....For my taste, LI'L SMIDGIN has a suitable lower lifeline with the windshield a tad too high .....Grashopper has (or seems to be) a lower windsheild, but the lifeline is too tall.
I guess functionality comes into place here on lifeline height or was there a tech height to meet on racing?
As for the 2 different deck types offered by Magnum?........I know the V deck sport was offered early (like Mario's and also Mark mentioned Emerald city "Subulaxator") why the choice?
i've never heard the conversation mentioned why Magnum sold 2 different deck type 27 sports...was it function or just styling?........just curious to the marketing difference if any.

Scippy,
I'd venture this was driven by simple cost availability of windshields from outside manufacturers. I figure this was an easy way to increase market share / sales as a family boat. The Vee Magnum 27 was merely a deck overlay, a small separate piece ahead of the stock Sport windscreen. Back then 50 mph in your face was kind of not accepted . . sunglasses would get sucked off your face, and in the 27 we're all way above deck and exposed . .

fed up with snow and cold!

I don't know, but my guess would be the v windshield was a factory option, I don't think there were many made compared to the total number of sports. (maybe 10-15%) I think they are pretty cool looking but wouldn't want one that tall for myself. I do get blasted in my boat though...

I have a 1969 Magnum Sedan, and have never found a serial number, and still looking.
Nothing under the dash or seats