Mad Mother
 

The Mag Mad Mother is up for sale again, she sure gets around.....:party-smiley-004:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/boa/4767677035.html

Hmmmmmm......mine also is a '76 and hull # 341.....curious to know what hull # MM's is?........Also curious to know how the 27' hull performs with single big power pushing it as opposed to moderate twins say 350 - 400 hp SB's?
I've been told "sacrilege" to think of anything other than twins in a 27' sport..................just wondering how different power applications (and or weight) would affects the 27' hull's performance characteristics.

Bike's right mirror seems an "hole for bow thruster"....

Pete I helped on the conversion [of this single 482cu & speed III drive APBA class II Factory built Mag [BROAD JUMPER] to twin 402cu [350 + hp] big block & Volvo E drives. Broad Jumper # 288 & the # 88 Zonker Mag were two Mag's that came to Lake St Clair around 1974 that raced in APBA class II. My friend had a tight budget with Magnum Force & it ran great with these low buck engines running around 70mph. Mel with Vixen is a conversion from twin engines to a modern single big block & Bravo Merc drive running 80+ mph. The Grumpy Old Men Mag also was a twin to single Starfire Mag it also ran 80+. These set ups are great for racing but I still like twins small blocks for every day cruising.
You can read about Mel's restoration here on OSO. Mark
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/m...ml#post2124405

Mark........Thanks for the wonderful read!......you know I haven't rigged my sport with power yet and looking at Vixen's single sitting so much lower in the engine bay (the thru exhaust must be atleast 4" lower at the rub rail)
no doubt more room less mechanical pinching, but (like you said earlier) there are trade offs ..............Vixen got to 80 with a single 540 and a B1..........what HP was he putting out?

Scippy,

your answer is here:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/m...g-up-sale.html

Mario

Jeff told me that Mel never dynode the engine so Hp ???? One more thing about two nice smallblocks I can turn my Mag around in a 35' wide canal.

The 27' Magnum which used to be called "Grumpy Old Men" and "Goumada" has been sold, and will be racing in OPA class 5 in 2015.

Hey Bob..........Glad it will continue racing and not retirement. If you know, what are the details concerning any new rigging choices for the OPA class in '15.....Happy Thanksgiving!

Scippy (Pete),
The boat will be rigged with single 540 cubic inch BBC, not sure about the HP, but I'm guessing 625-assuming it is coming out of his other boat.
How is your boat coming along? You'll have to update rebuild on line.
Bob

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Bob.......I just got done fabricating a solid windscreen for the sport (Mario sent me a template of his we both share the same V deck designed 27' sport) it came out really nice just need to spray gelcoat will post pictures soon..........still pushing back the rigging choice of whether to drop in twins or single power until all structural and cosmetic work is done............to date, new transom & all new stringers- 2 new 65 gal fuel tanks with new cabin floor- dropped the cockpit sole by 4" and replaced the floor as well..........even fabricated new engine hatch. All the hardware has been located & re-chromed.............power next, but still uncertain.

Back on track.
 

Generated some interest in the sale of the Mad Mother but nothing worth letting her go. Caught the fever again thank god. Back on track.

I followed the boat from when it became LA Express to present. Mike always put together nice race boats and he was my neighbor so it had my attention. When it was raced as Cheap Thrills I was racing my own boats and my focus was preparing for the race. I never had time to study the other boats in the pits much. I remember seeing the name Cheap Thrills often at our local GLOPRA races but it was just another boat. Life works in mysterious ways. Now the boat waits in my shop for another chance.

I spend a lot of time when reworking a boat thinking about its past. A boat like this one has a story and no one will probably be around long enough to see all the chapters. The day it was bought, The Mad Mother Team, The Cheap Thrills Team, The LA Express Team that ran it against some of the best, The past fifteen years where it went from yard to shop to rack to marina. It makes me wonder how many of these people are still alive that couldn't wait to see it run on the weekend.;

As time goes on the threads on this forum are slowing down. The pictures and stories about the history of the boats and owners are far and few between. The history of the boats are being lost in time. I surf through the threads of this boat and read how many times people have asked about this boat and it;s history and the only guy that knows anything is H2O and a few pictures. You can only hope that the pictures are not ending up in the dump as the boats get new lives and our lives get old.

Glad your back on track!.........It is a sad but true statement that time has not been kind to the era of 60's & 70's old skool race boats. The winning pedegree of those hulls and the achievments they recorded often times does not bring the monetary value they deserve!......Sadly, the appreciation for old skool anything right now is solely into cars!......."How much is my car worth" - "Wheeler dealers" - "Overhauled" - "chassing classic cars" - "classic car rescue" - "garage squad" - "south beach classics" on and on!!........Glad there are people like Mark (H20) who shares alot in (pictures) and remembers some of the more interesting times of the race boats and racers who raced them ..........If you restore her you help keep a great example of the past alive............there's not too many left!!!

Your so right Scippy. When we allow these boats into our lives it cant be about the money. They are priceless. Its our addiction of choice to make us happy. I would keep them all if it where not for space in the shop and down payment for the next fix (Project).

I have said it before but this will be my last. I think I can honestly say this. In the past I was always in a rush to get them done. This one is different. I am content some nights not grinding on the glass and just studying every inch of the boat and tipping a few.

If anyone has a story, detail about this boats past or a picture that was found It would be appreciated.

My 27 sport does not have any racing pedegree that I know of (hull #341) but I'm still so thrilled at the fact that here's a signifgant hull design that has inspired so many different adaptations through the years from this one singular hull design and I posess one!.......Forgetaboutit !!!........if it were also a winning race boat!!!

hello guys , sorry for the question, but anyone of you know a mag 27 starfire for sale in usa ?, i was vary close to buy the last one free in italy , but..... , know i ' m searching for one on sale around the world, who can help me?
regards.
JANAIRO

Work Update Pic's
 

Spent Christmas putting in heat in shop. Primed fairing and transom for finish sanding. Nice to have heat.

Nice!!.........no hibernation for the MM ...with heat now full speed ahead!......keep the pictures coming!
What is MM's hin #..........I have a '76 also production #341 Scippy

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Going to be done for the summer?

Forgot it's a 3man race setup........was looking at the recent pics and thought " Wow, that's a pretty large engine hatch"!!

Yes, hoping to test by memorial weekend. Building engine for the XR drive now 740hp Merlin

Scippy, Two man sit-down. Feeling old!

[QUOTE=legend;4506309]Scippy, Two man sit-down. Feeling old![/QUOTE.....] Hope you can brace for the sting of a hard landing while sitting Lol !!!

Me and another guy are considering boating up to lake St Clair next summer for the old school reunion, a day trip, not sure it will happen but just something to think about. We would be leaving from around the islands.

I'd be interested in joining if possible.

It's a great day on the water with some nice people and nice boats.

Jeff

Had a sit-down 28 Nordic with blown nitrous. Magnum will feel like watching TV on the couch.

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New engine for the Magnum project

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Should be a very nice set up, good power & drive ability..

Spent many hours in the bulge of that boat , had 372s in it then ,miss those days, we also had a 26 martini that ran under cheap thrills too,