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Keytime 08-28-2008 02:43 PM

Shootout results posted
 
http://store.nzsw.com/merchant2/merc...y_Code=Results

TOP GUN SPEED DRIVER
11BL 178 Dave Scott-Driver, John Tomlinson-Throttle
TOP V-Hull Professional Division
PVO4S3 130 Dr. Michael Janssen-Driver, Matthew Janssen-Throttle
TOP Cat Non-Professional Division
NC3P2 154 Greg Olsen
TOP V-Hull Non-Professional Division
NV3P2 107 Ivan "Buck" Stracener
Top Cat Manufacturers Division
MC5P2 157 Bob Bull
TOP V-Hull Manufacturers Division
MV4P2 94 Craig Barrie



CLASS WINNERS SPEED DRIVER
11BL 178 Dave Scott-Driver, John Tomlinson-Throttle
MC2F2 116 Larry Carpenter
MC5P2 157 Bob Bull
MP1S1 61 Caroyln Dooris
MP1S2 76 Jim Dooris
MP2F1 60 Jim Dooris
MV4P2 94 Craig Barrie
NC1F1 82 Kyle Rice
NC1M1 75 Chris Walker
NC1P1 110 Larry Wiser
NC2M1 91 Danny McKinney
NC2P1 113 Warren Neighbour
NC2P2 129 Art DiNick
NC2S2 93 Brady Williams
NC3M2 120 JD Onken
NC3P2 154 Greg Olsen
NC4P2 152 Dennis Pool
NC6P2 132 Stephen Sweet
NCO2S2 117 Jim Melley
NP1S1 60 Dan Hutchinson
NP1S2 89 Brad Rowland
NP2P1 96 John "Cap" Caparell
NP2S2 72 William "Durb" Durbin
NP3S2 78 Bob Alexander
NPWC1 46 Alex Ashcroft
NPWC2 60 Matt Clark
NPWC3 62 Reginald Purnell
NPWC4 56 Greg Surdyke
NV1F1 62 Carrie Sixkiller
NV1S1 66 Mark Fera
NV2F1 66 Ron Duggan
NV2M1 65 Anthony Manzella
NV2P2 88 Serge Cabonneau
NV2S2 65 Greg Heath
NV3F2 90 Dave Weyer
NV3M2 97 Monte Bhorofen
NV3P1 93 Brant Daniels
NV3P2 107 Ivan "Buck" Stracener
NV3S2 71 Roger Brose
NV4F2 89 Al Brodeck
NV4M2 96 John Malecky
NV4P2 106 Grant Freeman
NV5P3 101 Mike Atcheson
NVO1S1 54 John Crabtree
PC4P2 158 Richie Prince
PC4S2 140 Dennis Hillhouse
PC5M4 130 Don Onken
PV2M2 86 Jeremy Ressler-Driver, Brad Harrington-Throttle
PV4P2 96 Brian Forehand
PV4S3 69 Dr. Michael Janssen
PV5M3 87 Dr. Michael Janssen-Driver, Terry Janssen-Throttle
PVO4S3 130 Dr. Michael Janssen-Driver, Matthew Janssen-Throttle

omerta one 08-28-2008 05:00 PM

Where can I get a description of the various classes?

RunninHotRacing163.1 08-28-2008 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 2667432)
Where can I get a description of the various classes?

It was on the www.lakeshootout.com site

gsmith9898 08-28-2008 06:28 PM

greg olson at 154mph. That is the new eliminator 33 with 6's?

Von Bongo 08-28-2008 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing158 (Post 2667445)
It was on the www.lakeshootout.com site

They are slightly different than what is listed there, basically they added M for manufacture, P for professional and N for non perfessional to the beginning of the classes.

Now how they determine that part of it you will have to check with them.

Keytime 08-29-2008 11:51 AM

CLASSIFICATION GUIDE

DIVISION(S):
PROFESSIONAL
MANUFACTURERS
• Top V-Hull
• Top Cat
NON-PROFESSIONAL

HULL TYPES:
V……V-HULL BOATS
C……CATAMARAN AND TUNNEL HULL BOATS
VO….V-HULL OUTBOARDS
CO….CATAMARAN AND TUNNEL HULL BOATS W/OUTBOARDS
P……PONTOON AND DECK BOATS
F……FACTORY BOATS
H……HYDROPLANES

LENGTHS:
1…… ………22’ – 26’
2…… ………27’ – 31’
3…… ………32’ – 35’
4…… ………36’ – 42’
5……………42’ AND OVER

ENGINE CLASSIFICATIONS:
S – STOCK ENGINES (ANY PRODUCTION ENGINES WITHOUT MODIFICATION, 500 HP ENGINES ARE NOT STOCK)
F – FOR MODIFIED FACTIORY ENGINES WITHOUT POWER (INCLUDES 525 SC STOCK)
M – CUSTOM BUILT MODIFIED ENGINES WITHOUT POWER ADDED FEATURES
P – POWER ADDED FEATURES (i.e. BLOWERS, TURBOS, NITROS, TURBINES, etc.)

NUMBER OF ENGINES

BOAT NUMBER

EXAMPLE – PV3P4-1 is Professional division, V-HULL, 32’ – 35’
POWER ADDED W/4 ENGINES, boat #1

PWC DIVISION:
PWC-1……STAND UP
PWC-2……0-785CC
PWC-3……ABOVE 785CC or POWER MODIFICATIONS
PWC-4……4 SEATER CLASS

PWC BOAT NUMBER

EXAMPLE: PWC – 2-1 is a PWC under 785CC, boat #1

Rage 09-03-2008 09:30 AM

Any way to find out the make/model hull and/or more motor details on the boats that ran?


Originally Posted by Keytime (Post 2667267)
http://store.nzsw.com/merchant2/merc...y_Code=Results

TOP GUN SPEED DRIVER
11BL 178 Dave Scott-Driver, John Tomlinson-Throttle
TOP V-Hull Professional Division
PVO4S3 130 Dr. Michael Janssen-Driver, Matthew Janssen-Throttle
TOP Cat Non-Professional Division
NC3P2 154 Greg Olsen
TOP V-Hull Non-Professional Division
NV3P2 107 Ivan "Buck" Stracener
Top Cat Manufacturers Division
MC5P2 157 Bob Bull
TOP V-Hull Manufacturers Division
MV4P2 94 Craig Barrie



CLASS WINNERS SPEED DRIVER
11BL 178 Dave Scott-Driver, John Tomlinson-Throttle
MC2F2 116 Larry Carpenter
MC5P2 157 Bob Bull
MP1S1 61 Caroyln Dooris
MP1S2 76 Jim Dooris
MP2F1 60 Jim Dooris
MV4P2 94 Craig Barrie
NC1F1 82 Kyle Rice
NC1M1 75 Chris Walker
NC1P1 110 Larry Wiser
NC2M1 91 Danny McKinney
NC2P1 113 Warren Neighbour
NC2P2 129 Art DiNick
NC2S2 93 Brady Williams
NC3M2 120 JD Onken
NC3P2 154 Greg Olsen
NC4P2 152 Dennis Pool
NC6P2 132 Stephen Sweet
NCO2S2 117 Jim Melley
NP1S1 60 Dan Hutchinson
NP1S2 89 Brad Rowland
NP2P1 96 John "Cap" Caparell
NP2S2 72 William "Durb" Durbin
NP3S2 78 Bob Alexander
NPWC1 46 Alex Ashcroft
NPWC2 60 Matt Clark
NPWC3 62 Reginald Purnell
NPWC4 56 Greg Surdyke
NV1F1 62 Carrie Sixkiller
NV1S1 66 Mark Fera
NV2F1 66 Ron Duggan
NV2M1 65 Anthony Manzella
NV2P2 88 Serge Cabonneau
NV2S2 65 Greg Heath
NV3F2 90 Dave Weyer
NV3M2 97 Monte Bhorofen
NV3P1 93 Brant Daniels
NV3P2 107 Ivan "Buck" Stracener
NV3S2 71 Roger Brose
NV4F2 89 Al Brodeck
NV4M2 96 John Malecky
NV4P2 106 Grant Freeman
NV5P3 101 Mike Atcheson
NVO1S1 54 John Crabtree
PC4P2 158 Richie Prince
PC4S2 140 Dennis Hillhouse
PC5M4 130 Don Onken
PV2M2 86 Jeremy Ressler-Driver, Brad Harrington-Throttle
PV4P2 96 Brian Forehand
PV4S3 69 Dr. Michael Janssen
PV5M3 87 Dr. Michael Janssen-Driver, Terry Janssen-Throttle
PVO4S3 130 Dr. Michael Janssen-Driver, Matthew Janssen-Throttle


nevrenuf 09-03-2008 11:21 AM

Hey I Have A 2003 Fountain 27 Foot With A 525 Efi Stock Motor And A Imco Sc Drive. I Know Everyone Can Go Fast On The Internet. I Was Wondering What Class Im In I Think It Is Nf2f1 Or Nv2f1 Am I Right.thanks Remenber Its Nevr Enuf!!!

Von Bongo 09-03-2008 02:28 PM

Nv2f1

GeeterB 09-03-2008 03:03 PM

Top speed 22-26ft single engine vhulls top speed low 60's? I have a 25 checkmate...Could've run 68mph and then said I won my class?:rolleyes:

Rage 09-03-2008 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by GeeterB (Post 2673243)
Top speed 22-26ft single engine vhulls top speed low 60's? I have a 25 checkmate...Could've run 68mph and then said I won my class?:rolleyes:

Yes, very low numbers for that class.

JaayTeee 09-03-2008 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by GeeterB (Post 2673243)
Top speed 22-26ft single engine vhulls top speed low 60's? I have a 25 checkmate...Could've run 68mph and then said I won my class?:rolleyes:

If you only ran on Saturday, your 68 would
have been more like 60...due to radar gun inaccuracies.

Some people only ran on Saturday.

Von Bongo 09-03-2008 10:04 PM

Remember 68 won but that doesn't mean that is as fast as the boat goes. only way to know is have some competition.

In the Nv2M & P classes in prior years and even the V1P class the top speed has been over 100. A couple of 27 fountains have run over 100 and a H2X a couple years ago ran 109.

Not trying to discourage you but remember there may be no reason to hang it all out if you don't have any competition.

GeeterB 09-04-2008 06:27 AM

I was surprised by the results is all. I know of maybe 50,000 boats plus that could leave me in upside down in their wake. Just a comment on the class. I know for a fact that there are lots of 22-26 single engine vhulls that do 80 plus. It's shocking to me that none of them were running.

Keytime 09-04-2008 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Von Bongo (Post 2673825)
Remember 68 won but that doesn't mean that is as fast as the boat goes. only way to know is have some competition.

In the Nv2M & P classes in prior years and even the V1P class the top speed has been over 100. A couple of 27 fountains have run over 100 and a H2X a couple years ago ran 109.

Not trying to discourage you but remember there may be no reason to hang it all out if you don't have any competition.

Amen! Competition is about running on that day under those conditions. I'm guessing most of these boats don't run their best number.

Keytime 09-04-2008 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by GeeterB (Post 2673989)
I was surprised by the results is all. I know of maybe 50,000 boats plus that could leave me in upside down in their wake. Just a comment on the class. I know for a fact that there are lots of 22-26 single engine vhulls that do 80 plus. It's shocking to me that none of them were running.

Yes, shocking that a lot more boats didn't run. I believe a very common excuse is "overthinking".
Bring the Checkmate next year and I'll bring mine. :evilb:

Von Bongo 09-04-2008 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by GeeterB (Post 2673989)
I was surprised by the results is all. I know of maybe 50,000 boats plus that could leave me in upside down in their wake. Just a comment on the class. I know for a fact that there are lots of 22-26 single engine vhulls that do 80 plus. It's shocking to me that none of them were running.

I think 3 things keep a lot of people from running. Insurance, don't want to finish 2nd and sometimes it's a long hot wait to run.

On the flip side, it's also a fund raiser and the money does go to good causes around the lake and into equipment that may save some lives.

GeeterB 09-04-2008 11:06 AM

Key....OK....sounds like a plan. I will be there next year. Can't promise high speeds, but I will buy the first beer after the shoot-out. Do you get to LOTO much?

dave krehbiel 09-04-2008 03:11 PM

I don't think anybodies boat ran as good as it could have on Sat. 100% humidity and smooth water kept me 5mh, slow at 68mph on my gps in my first two runs. Don't know what there radar had me at but Jay Tee said that it was not working right anyway. If that is true than I should have won my class in th NV-2S2-2 class.

tony manzella 09-05-2008 07:16 AM

M.P.H. Saturday
 
where they were shooting Saturday was nuts , sunday they got it together and speeds were up by just a tad should we say ! :cool:

Rebel_Heart 09-05-2008 11:37 AM

I noticed that radar vs gps on my first run was 1 mph off. My second run was 1.5 mph off. I guess this isn't too bad. Just glad I didn't run on Saturday.

dave krehbiel 09-05-2008 01:08 PM

I never actually heard what their speeds were for me on Sat, does anyone know how to find out?

Keytime 09-05-2008 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by GeeterB (Post 2674285)
Key....OK....sounds like a plan. I will be there next year. Can't promise high speeds, but I will buy the first beer after the shoot-out. Do you get to LOTO much?

I can't promise 'em either, but it'll be fun. :drink:

I live near Wichita, KS and hit the lake about 5-6 times in the summer. Our family has a lake house on the 3.5mm of the Osage Arm... across from Atlantis Island.

How about yourself?

GeeterB 09-06-2008 04:48 AM

Mostly on the Mississippi river in St Charles. Make it down to the lake maybe once a year. I'll make it to the shootout next year. Would like to meet a few other OSO'ers like yourself, I need to meet and hang out with more boaters...cause non-boaters don't get it.

kap328 09-07-2008 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Rebel_Heart (Post 2675465)
I noticed that radar vs gps on my first run was 1 mph off. My second run was 1.5 mph off. I guess this isn't too bad. Just glad I didn't run on Saturday.

_______________
Comments

Well that was about right for Sunday but Saturday a lot of racers complained it was off by a substantial margin.

I found the difference on Saturday was about 6-7MPH off depending on were you came in on the radar.

Our boat has two independent GPS units and they are pretty much right on the money. Saturday, I ran a 96.5 and the radar had me at 90MPH.

The Sunday runs were more accurate not necessarily that speeds increased it was just the radar trap was hung out a lot further on the course. Thus, more accurate times for all racers and smoother transition times between runs and less waiting at the start line versus Saturday.

Conditions were not conducive to high speeds the weather was HOT, HUMID (99%) and Sticky. The direction of the course did not help ie..starting North and finishing South. Our boat likes to go into the wind and pack some air. I found it real hard to free up the boat as it was glued to the water and really running very wet.

In the end the 96MPH top end was still first in the Deckboat class and we had a great time. Truth be told I hit the rev limiter and thought about a prop. change and coming back out to hit the triple digit mark but we had not broken anything ahead in our class by a huge lead and we wanted to boat later on the lake.

I must say LOTO is an amazing place to boat it was our first time to LOTO but it will not be the last.

KAP

Gordo 09-08-2008 11:42 AM

This debate has been repeated each year. Some years there have been questions about radar accuraccy. Speeds may be "off" for that day, but they are off for everyone eoually. BUT, we have also learned that things like the angle of approach can also make a difference on the gun compared to GPS. Just remember, there are a lot of people working hard all year to make it a successfu, and SAFE event. This year was somewhat of a transition year. Everyone had fun and everyone brought their boATS home in one piece, (which doesn't always happen). Congrats to everyone involved.

Rage 09-08-2008 03:49 PM

Does anyone have the details on all the boats that ran in each class and speeds recorded?

kap328 09-08-2008 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Gordo (Post 2678326)
This debate has been repeated each year. Some years there have been questions about radar accuraccy. Speeds may be "off" for that day, but they are off for everyone eoually. BUT, we have also learned that things like the angle of approach can also make a difference on the gun compared to GPS. Just remember, there are a lot of people working hard all year to make it a successfu, and SAFE event. This year was somewhat of a transition year. Everyone had fun and everyone brought their boATS home in one piece, (which doesn't always happen). Congrats to everyone involved.

Hello Gordo:

Well at least say hello :) we sat right next to you at the Bar in Captn Ron's. It was a pleasure to meet you and your lovely wife---it is also nice to put a face to the screen name.

If you recall I told you at the bar we loved the event and the people an outstanding job by all. The event was awesome and yes it will only get better but it received A++ reviews from both myself and my family.

Once again, a big thanks to all the volunteers who made this event a success.

KAP

P.S. Kinda hard to forget a name like Gordo especially when we live so close to the border:drink:.

Rage 09-09-2008 08:42 AM

Who physically managed/directed the speed runs and recorded the results?

Gordo 09-09-2008 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by kap328 (Post 2678656)
Hello Gordo: Kinda hard to forget a name like Gordo especially when we live so close to the border:drink:.

<laughing> Does this name make me look fat?
:ernaehrung004: Sorry 'bout that. I'm still not quite hittin on all eight at times.
Hiya !!
Was great meeting y'all

Gordo 09-09-2008 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Rage (Post 2679376)
Who physically managed/directed the speed runs and recorded the results?

I believe it is members of the local (Camdenton, Osage Beach etc.) Fire&Rescue departments.
Keep in mind this may not be a sanctioned APBA-Offshore Pro Series event, HOWEVER, The men and women who volunteer to put on this event each year do the best they can with what they have. Those volunteer efforts have changed the Lake Rescue Shootout from a local weekend fun-run into an annual event that draws the baddest boats in the Nation, the biggest teams in Pro racing, and international coverage in publications such as Powerboat Magazine. This was a huge transition year for the Shootout, (location change etc). I'm looking forward to next year !
(pssst- look for an Active Thunder to return with "fresh" horsepower).

Von Bongo 09-09-2008 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Gordo (Post 2679408)
:ernaehrung004: Sorry 'bout that. I'm still not quite hittin on all eight at times.

And that is different how??:party-smiley-004::D

Maybe you should upgrade to Ilmors then even at 80% you're hittin on 8!

owner2124 09-18-2008 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by gsmith9898 (Post 2667531)
greg olson at 154mph. That is the new eliminator 33 with 6's?

Yea just completed not to long ago, 1500hp and #6's. He would of ran alot faster if he did not blow a intake gasket. Not bad for the first shakedown. Cant wait tell next year!!!!:ernaehrung004:


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