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the bear 09-03-2008 10:30 AM

Grey MTI
 
At the shootout it looked like Randy Scism was in it, its design looked different in the front. Was it a new design?

Sean H 09-03-2008 10:40 AM

new 48 race... (although the jotun mti that races in UIM is similiar in size really)

44MTI 09-03-2008 01:23 PM

As sean stated that was a brand new model that hit the water thur. of the shootout. The front started out the same as all MTI's, but was then cut down, along with the rest of the boat, making the front end look a little different, along with being a foot wider.

JohnnyZ 09-03-2008 01:24 PM

I think it's the new CMS boat, not positive though.
JZ

the bear 09-03-2008 02:12 PM

It resembled a Mystic in the front but was definately an MTI whith the humps at the cockpit, it did look mean!

Sea-Dated 09-03-2008 02:24 PM

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BIG Motors and 4 speed trannys. Ran beside for a minute in a 36' Skater and you could hear it shift gears right before it walked away from us and we were running 140.

stainless 09-03-2008 02:40 PM

Nice !:ernaehrung004:

schnydo 09-03-2008 04:54 PM

Shootout
 
Didn't Bob & Randy Run 167 Sat = 177 Sun ?

lowblue320 09-03-2008 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Sea-Dated (Post 2673193)
BIG Motors and 4 speed trannys. Ran beside for a minute in a 36' Skater and you could hear it shift gears right before it walked away from us and we were running 140.

any running shots at all......................that boat looks mean.................

Sean H 09-03-2008 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by schnydo (Post 2673369)
Didn't Bob & Randy Run 167 Sat = 177 Sun ?

157 saturday

Sean H 09-03-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lowblue320 (Post 2673383)
any running shots at all......................that boat looks mean.................

:cool:

Sean H 09-03-2008 05:28 PM

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:cool::cool:

lowblue320 09-03-2008 05:56 PM

woooooooooooooooooo........that boat is sick.......

schnydo 09-03-2008 07:24 PM

48 Against 50
 
48 Mti 2400 Horses = 157
50 Mistic 3100 Horses = 168

stainless 09-03-2008 09:53 PM

That boats' got a serious tunnel!:ernaehrung004:

lowblue320 09-04-2008 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by schnydo (Post 2673570)
48 Mti 2400 Horses = 157
50 Mistic 3100 Horses = 168

I believe the mystic ran 178 on the radar on loto...

Sean H 09-04-2008 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by schnydo (Post 2673570)
48 Mti 2400 Horses = 157
50 Mistic 3100 Horses = 168

you mean 2800 HP not 2400 right... :drink::party-smiley-004:

Sean H 09-04-2008 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by lowblue320 (Post 2674208)
I believe the mystic ran 178 on the radar on loto...

he was comparing saturday to saturday since bob didn't run on sunday, but yeah, 178 was sunday's speed for dave.

40FlatDeck 09-04-2008 10:51 AM

I could park my truck in that tunnel!!! :ernaehrung004: Sweet boat!!!

schnydo 09-04-2008 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Sean H (Post 2674211)
you mean 2800 HP not 2400 right... :drink::party-smiley-004:

1200 mercs right ?

Comanche3Six 09-04-2008 04:35 PM

Wow! That is some cat!

Sea-Dated 09-04-2008 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by schnydo (Post 2674620)
1200 mercs right ?

Mercs yes, 1200 no.......:party-smiley-004:

At least from what I have been told.

schnydo 09-04-2008 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by Sea-Dated (Post 2674768)
Mercs yes, 1200 no.......:party-smiley-004:

At least from what I have been told.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT BUT RADIO SAID 1200'S

Comanche3Six 09-11-2008 09:39 AM

Any more pics..........
Info about the trannies?...Weissman?

Hot Knots 09-11-2008 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2682256)
Any more pics..........
Info about the trannies?...Weissman?

Most likely Weismann trannies. Lenco makes two speeds but I don't think they make 3 or 4 speeds.

WeaponX 09-11-2008 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Sean H (Post 2673395)
157 saturday

Wrong 177 sunday is right just not on a gun just for fun.

WeaponX 09-11-2008 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2682256)
Any more pics..........
Info about the trannies?...Weissman?

I have pics I think they're Muncie M22 Rock crushers.:evilb:

Comanche3Six 09-12-2008 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by WeaponX (Post 2683097)
I have pics I think they're Muncie M22 Rock crushers.:evilb:

That was a good trans for my old 70 Chevelle SS!

WeaponX 09-12-2008 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2684174)
That was a good trans for my old 70 Chevelle SS!

I had two. One in my 72 Nova, and my first 63 Impala.:drink:
Loud exhaust is a good thing for M22s first through third a bit noisy aint they.

The transmisions in the boat are wild just can't say anything about them....I could be MIA.:angry-smiley-038:

Cash Bar 09-13-2008 02:04 PM

Aren't you already MIA ??

WeaponX 09-13-2008 02:38 PM

Master In Attitude.:evilb:

mcollinstn 09-16-2008 10:00 PM

Boat is indeed the CMS boat.

WeaponX 09-17-2008 12:03 AM

Somebody's been talking. Or some real good guess work.

RunninHotRacing163.1 09-17-2008 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mcollinstn (Post 2688132)
Boat is indeed the CMS boat.

Motors are Merc 1200's. Nothing is visibly altered. Possibly some internal magic, but they are running what appear to be "normal" pulley sizes.

Transmissions are very trick and compact air-shifted 4 speed units. Real gears and dogs - no clutches or sissy stuff. Throttles must be wide open in order for upshifting to be enabled. Shifts are allowed via an ignition interrupter that unloads the transmissions, the dog rapidly shifts out of one gear, sensors count pulses until the dog and mating gear are in correct position, and the dog is slammed home into the next gearset as the ignition receives power again. There is only a 4% ratio difference between each of the 4 gearsets. Sounds like a dirtbike shifting. Waaaaaaa...waaaaaaaaaa...waaaaaaaaa...waaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaa.

Merc Six drives have the skegs cut off and are trimmable, but locked straight. Toe is hydraulically adjustable +/- a few degrees underway.

Boat fired up for the first time ever on Thursday before the Shootout. Boat ran well Saturday for first shot out of the box.

Boat is probably a little heavier than the Mystic.

The Cats out of the bag::Dernaehrung004:

tblrklakemo 09-17-2008 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by mcollinstn (Post 2688132)
Boat is indeed the CMS boat.

Motors are Merc 1200's. Nothing is visibly altered. Possibly some internal magic, but they are running what appear to be "normal" pulley sizes.

Transmissions are very trick and compact air-shifted 4 speed units. Real gears and dogs - no clutches or sissy stuff. Throttles must be wide open in order for upshifting to be enabled. Shifts are allowed via an ignition interrupter that unloads the transmissions, the dog rapidly shifts out of one gear, sensors count pulses until the dog and mating gear are in correct position, and the dog is slammed home into the next gearset as the ignition receives power again. There is only a 4% ratio difference between each of the 4 gearsets. Sounds like a dirtbike shifting. Waaaaaaa...waaaaaaaaaa...waaaaaaaaa...waaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaa.

Merc Six drives have the skegs cut off and are trimmable, but locked straight. Toe is hydraulically adjustable +/- a few degrees underway.

Boat fired up for the first time ever on Thursday before the Shootout. Boat ran well Saturday for first shot out of the box.

Boat is probably a little heavier than the Mystic.



So what is the point of 4 very close ratio gears as compared to 2 or 3 more spaced out gears? Just easier to get from 1 to 4 if you have 2 and 3 in the middle? As compared to a big jump for (what would be) 1 to 4....? Less stress on everything taking more smaller jumps?

WeaponX 09-17-2008 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing158 (Post 2688298)
The Cats out of the bag::Dernaehrung004:

Just a small part of the tail.:D

There's a lot more to this CAT.:p:D See what I done there.

mcollinstn 09-18-2008 08:09 AM

I didn't know the tranny was a secret.
It's not like you can't already HEAR the shifts..

These are "old news" in Europe.
As far as ratios, the trans builder says that the first gen units had a "low" first, and much wider ratios, but the racers kept asking for closer and closer gearing. If you baseline your prop pitch at 40", four selections, each a 4% change would give you the effect of having 4 props. 37", 38.4", 40", 41.6"
That's pretty significant.

I'm a huge fan of the transmissions. I think all boats should have them. With further development and a market for them, these babies would be perfect for pleasure boats, especially when you look at the possible fuel economy benefits. As was mentioned, though, I agree that wider ratios would likely be the norm for pleasure applications. That, and of course, a reverse.

mc

sellsman11 09-18-2008 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by mcollinstn (Post 2689400)
I didn't know the tranny was a secret.
It's not like you can't already HEAR the shifts..

These are "old news" in Europe.
As far as ratios, the trans builder says that the first gen units had a "low" first, and much wider ratios, but the racers kept asking for closer and closer gearing. If you baseline your prop pitch at 40", four selections, each a 4% change would give you the effect of having 4 props. 37", 38.4", 40", 41.6"
That's pretty significant.

I'm a huge fan of the transmissions. I think all boats should have them. With further development and a market for them, these babies would be perfect for pleasure boats, especially when you look at the possible fuel economy benefits. As was mentioned, though, I agree that wider ratios would likely be the norm for pleasure applications. That, and of course, a reverse.

mc

When are you coming back through Pickwick??

mcollinstn 09-18-2008 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by sellsman11 (Post 2689589)
When are you coming back through Pickwick??

Dunno Frankie. Depends on when me and Jimmy can swing a time that works.
MC


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