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DirtyMoney 09-17-2005 08:23 PM

3600 w/ Ilmors
 
I saw somewhere that Nortech had built a 3600 with ilmors and was curious how it performed. Does anyone have any info on this boat?

salesmanship 09-17-2005 08:28 PM

Re: 3600 w/ Ilmors
 
You must have seen it in a crystal ball. Nothing built yet but a 43 V w/ trips is in the rig shop now. A 36 should be coming down the line in a few months.
TS

DirtyMoney 09-18-2005 12:18 AM

Re: 3600 w/ Ilmors
 
It was in one of Florida powerboats ads but it was just a drawing. I have someone looking now waiting to see perf. numbers on this set up. He is not sure what he wants. He has had me checking on a couple boats over the last few months. Reliability is a major concern he has and 525's seem to be a good set up. Ilmor/Arneson package would be ideal.

How many 36's have been built with Arnesons and how did they perform?

salesmanship 09-19-2005 07:45 AM

Re: 3600 w/ Ilmors
 
There's one ASD 6 -36 w/ gas motors in MI. Seems to be doing fine. There's another w/ ASD 8's with Yanmar Diesels in Norway and no problem there either.

Buddy OO 09-20-2005 01:17 AM

Re: 3600 w/ Ilmors
 
The Ilmor will be a great package with the imco extreme drive, We have a 39v coming with this setup looking for 100+ and in the 36 cat, I believe 120+ is attainable, the imco drive is a very fast drive, will have to wait and see

DirtyMoney 09-20-2005 06:35 PM

Re: 3600 w/ Ilmors
 
Wouldn't have the imco's. Not consistent on their quality and poor customer service. Would take a Teague platinum over the Imco.

Buddy OO 11-27-2007 07:04 PM

you looking at a nortech now , ha ha ha, right

DirtyMoney 11-27-2007 07:11 PM

Do your homework my step dad picked up a 4300 this summer.

jeff1000man 11-27-2007 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by salesmanship (Post 1462371)
There's one ASD 6 -36 w/ gas motors in MI. Seems to be doing fine. There's another w/ ASD 8's with Yanmar Diesels in Norway and no problem there either.

I heard from Nortech that they weren't making anymore ASD-6 rigged 3600's.

I bet they would if someone payed them to do it though.

LostinBoston 11-27-2007 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by jeff1000man (Post 2350398)
I heard from Nortech that they weren't making anymore ASD-6 rigged 3600's.

I bet they would if someone payed them to do it though.

Ther ASD-6 was never a great Cat drive, Arneson designed the ASD 7 for cats. The steering geometry is more suitable for a longer tie bar needed for cats. The ASD-6 boat has been rerigged with asd-7's.

Jassman 11-28-2007 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by LostinBoston (Post 2350758)
Ther ASD-6 was never a great Cat drive, Arneson designed the ASD 7 for cats. The steering geometry is more suitable for a longer tie bar needed for cats. The ASD-6 boat has been rerigged with asd-7's.



correct..Also buddy O, why in the hell would you rig any boat without a tranny. My choice is 700/NXT'slike the #6 better, 525-600/#6 cause you have to... or lastly Ilmor/Arneson due to low dealer service, especially in our area, who is TMP.

Has Ilmor straightened out their vapor lock issue's. I personally like the motor and was wondering how it stacked up against (700/NXT) the same boat with twins and the Arnesons.

tblrklakemo 12-17-2007 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2350885)
correct..Also buddy O, why in the hell would you rig any boat without a tranny. My choice is 700/NXT'slike the #6 better, 525-600/#6 cause you have to... or lastly Ilmor/Arneson due to low dealer service, especially in our area, who is TMP.

Has Ilmor straightened out their vapor lock issue's. I personally like the motor and was wondering how it stacked up against (700/NXT) the same boat with twins and the Arnesons.


How about Ilmore 710's and IMCO 1000's? Those are trans drives.

Maritime_Eng 12-17-2007 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by salesmanship (Post 1462371)
There's one ASD 6 -36 w/ gas motors in MI. Seems to be doing fine. There's another w/ ASD 8's with Yanmar Diesels in Norway and no problem there either.

Terry-

How fast was the 36 with 480 Yanmar Diesels/ASD 8's?

Thanks
Don

Jassman 12-17-2007 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by tblrklakemo (Post 2374620)
How about Ilmore 710's and IMCO 1000's? Those are trans drives.

None were ever done at Nortech to my knowledge, but Terry would know...it's been done on a few west coast cats. At the price, you would be better off with ASD-7's or then go with 6's, just my preference, both proven drives. I'm not an IMCO fan, had my share of problems with Xtreme Adv drive..do a serch..Jeff

Sonny Spectre 30 12-17-2007 06:53 PM

I have Ilmor 625's in my 36 Spectre and love them but the Teague drives have not held up behind them. So YES for the engines, but go for the #6 drives unless you can wait for Ilmor to come out with theirs.

LostinBoston 12-17-2007 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Sonny Spectre 30 (Post 2375205)
I have Ilmor 625's in my 36 Spectre and love them but the Teague drives have not held up behind them. So YES for the engines, but go for the #6 drives unless you can wait for Ilmor to come out with theirs.

What is the failure point for the teagues? I loooked at them at the show but was told they use the stock cone clutch, which is the weakest link in an XR, so I didnt see the point of upgrading the rest.

salesmanship 12-18-2007 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Maritime_Eng (Post 2374649)
Terry-

How fast was the 36 with 480 Yanmar Diesels/ASD 8's?

Thanks
Don

95 MPH.

Sonny Spectre 30 12-18-2007 07:55 PM

Same problem that most Bravo's have with this torque and horsepower. Gear failure. Metal on the magnets requiring rebuild at around 38 HRS.

drypipetiger 12-25-2007 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by salesmanship (Post 1461436)
You must have seen it in a crystal ball. Nothing built yet but a 43 V w/ trips is in the rig shop now. A 36 should be coming down the line in a few months.
TS

I always thought the boat below had Ilmors. I know the description says 700's but one of the ad pictures shows an Ilmore in it at one time?

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o18505-en.html

salesmanship 12-25-2007 11:30 AM

It did have Ilmors but has been re-rigged w/ new 700's NXT's.

drypipetiger 12-25-2007 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by salesmanship (Post 2383146)
It did have Ilmors but has been re-rigged w/ new 700's NXT's.

That is what I thought. The thread puzzled me when I read the first two posts.

He said "I saw somewhere that Nortech had built a 3600 with ilmors and was curious how it performed. Does anyone have any info on this boat?"

Then you responded "You must have seen it in a crystal ball. Nothing built yet but a 43 V w/ trips is in the rig shop now. A 36 should be coming down the line in a few months.
TS"

Your respnse implied that there has never been a 36 with Ilmors. What am I missing??

Jupiter Sunsation 12-25-2007 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by drypipetiger (Post 2383194)
That is what I thought. The thread puzzled me when I read the first two posts.

He said "I saw somewhere that Nortech had built a 3600 with ilmors and was curious how it performed. Does anyone have any info on this boat?"

Then you responded "You must have seen it in a crystal ball. Nothing built yet but a 43 V w/ trips is in the rig shop now. A 36 should be coming down the line in a few months.
TS"

Your respnse implied that there has never been a 36 with Ilmors. What am I missing??


Thread is old (Sept. 05) so Terry was responding to the first part in 05, second part in 07. The boat with Ilmors was built in that 2 year window.

drypipetiger 12-25-2007 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2383215)
Thread is old (Sept. 05) so Terry was responding to the first part in 05, second part in 07. The boat with Ilmors was built in that 2 year window.

OMG how stupid... I thought it was Sept. 07. Thanks for clarifiing and Merry Christmas.

Neil

Jupiter Sunsation 12-25-2007 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by drypipetiger (Post 2383231)
OMG how stupid... I thought it was Sept. 07. Thanks for clarifiing and Merry Christmas.

Neil

See what happens Neil when you don't have a pair of big blocks with dry exhaust rattling your brain loose...............it gets stuck!


Merry Christmas...............


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