why no 36 using ASD?
 

Whats going on with the 3600 cats & ASD? seems to me the perfect set up, why is no one using them? The Boat I'm looking at seems to be the only one using the ADS-6 yet they are used on all the other major cats. any thoughts? Thanks Jeff

Re: why no 36 using ASD?
 

Resale seems to be an issue with them.

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This is my take on it...This should also be asked in the gen. forum.....Boat Manufactures want to sell what sells easiest for them, all of them, and also what they have come acustomed to installing. The Quicker so many times you do it means more profit. They dont want to do R&D on something different, why fix what's not broken. Custom isn't custom anymore, and then what happens is sometimes the boats get set up wrong, so now it's the Surface drives fault. Hustler is the only one that ventures somewhat on the wild side by putting surface drives (ARNESON) on their V's. Beleive me, the boat drives as good, docks as well, no clunking into gear, way more dependable, gets up on plane as good.... if rigged and propped properly, but resale sucks because of the lack of knowledge of general public cause the dealer or boat manufactures doesnt want to educate them, nor has the time to educate their own employees or themselves, in sales and service. So now it becomes a morfadite. Internationally, like the races today on Spike, all the V's had surface drives, what do they know what we dont, or dont want to learn. Servicing them is easier, again once you go through them, just like anything else. Its unfortunate that Mercury has such a strangle hold on this industry, kind of like racing, but I will shut up on that. My next boat will have trip ASD-7's with a manufacturer who is willing to set the boat up right for my application.

Re: why no 36 using ASD?
 

If it's hard for a dealer to sell try it as an owner. #6s :D

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If enough people with balls got together and said the hell with you Mercury and your prices, (I commend Ilmor) and relized there were other alternatives that were more effecient out there, and were given a chance to not be banned in racing like(Weisman) and a few others, the competion would make Mercury improve (like on their bravos) and lower the prices. Mercury has to much control, again just my take on it.

Re: why no 36 using ASD?
 

Jassman I thought ASD-7's were only for cats?

Re: why no 36 using ASD?
 

Per RIK, basically the same as the asd-6, enhanced in a few areas, not a problem on a V, maybe he can elaborate since he is the expert.

Re: why no 36 using ASD?
 

I see that everyone is just snapping them up also!

Re: why no 36 using ASD?
 

The main reason for the question at hand is the lack of knowlege of a viable alternative.

There are the ones that say resale but at the same time they are having difficulties selling the same boats with a Mercury drive but they don't consider that an issue.

Reguardless of what the na sayers say, the drive does work on the boats reguardless of a Cat or a V bottom.

The drive units are stonger, lighter and for some dumb reason less expensive as well. There are no installation issues or use issues.

You want resale issues put a Bravo on these boats.

Re: why no 36 using ASD?
 

Rik, what are the money savings between yours and the #6, and what are the weight savings per unit?

Re: why no 36 using ASD?
 

well said, its to bad these don't get the credit they deserve. i have never heard anyone that has owned one not like it. why would you not like something that never breaks?

Re: why no 36 using ASD?
 

I think your right on the Mercury hold on the market. My next boat will have Trimax drives on it. Maybe the BPM built by Arneson like Dave has on the 46'. But I'm going to be running TURBINES so what do I care about resale. :evilb:

Re: why no 36 using ASD?
 

Dave has Trimax drives on his new turbine baot they look sweet and there very strong according to Randy. But BPMs don't require drop boxes like Trimax but the price is almost the same.

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The fuel don't bother me at 2.50 a gal for the turbine compared to 5.50 a gal on race fuel. Turbine burn more all around but if you look at 1500hp to 1500hp in fuel alone it's better with turbines but think about 2000hrs to 100hrs maybe on pistons.$$$$ :D

Re: why no 36 using ASD?
 

3600, i say go with the Tri max drives with weisman gear box with the t-53's in your new 42 carbon MTI and i believe 210mph is attainable. I think loto will have 5 of the fastest boats on the water this summer. Hell 160mph is nothing anymore . you guys are crazy with those speeds.