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frdvschvy 02-09-2009 04:00 PM

Fastest 35' Flame?
 
Anybody know of some fast 35' Flames out there? What are they running for power/drives. I am trying to determine what the 35' might run with twin Merc 700's or 850's backed by NXT drives. :evilb:

Linster 02-09-2009 05:24 PM

Not sure, 700 should get 100, 850 maybe 106

I think that heavy drive will throw off the balance. It already tail heavy

Linster 02-10-2009 06:48 PM

Tim,

U have low humidity which gives U 20-40 HP more per engine. Wish we had that humidity

Linster 02-11-2009 12:36 PM

What herrings did U use?

CB-BLR 02-11-2009 02:39 PM

I will answer for Tim.

Hering 29 pitch - 5 Blade Bravo style props.

Chris

Nordicflame 02-26-2009 12:27 PM

Chris,
Could you and Tim expand on the Hering props on the Flame...
What it is that works better than Bravos maybe.
Thanks,
Dave

Linster 02-26-2009 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by CB-BLR (Post 2798130)
I will answer for Tim.

Hering 29 pitch - 5 Blade Bravo style props.

Chris

i assume when you say Bravo style, you mean round ear style not cleaver style? I would think the cleaver style may do better since it has so much bow lift?

CB-BLR 02-26-2009 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by Linster (Post 2809570)
i assume when you say Bravo style, you mean round ear style not cleaver style? I would think the cleaver style may do better since it has so much bow lift?

Yes, when I say "Bravo Style", I mean round eared. Hering calls this prop their 5 blade bravo prop, which differs from their 5 blade cleaver style prop.

I agree, I have heard that the flames have a lot of natural bow lift, and that a cleaver style prop might work better.

I can tell you that the Hering 5 blade bravo props I have run on my Heat are smoother and faster than any other props I have run. Tim also likes the 5 blade bravo's on his Flame.

Chris

Linster 02-27-2009 05:01 AM

The 5 blades can hook up better, I can get into some 3-6 footers at times. Having some slip helps the drives. I tryt to avoid that water, but the bay can get rough

Nordicflame 02-27-2009 09:55 AM

Has anyone tried any Maximus 5 blades?
I know the single engine Flame with big hp ran into the 100s with a single 1200 with those.
Thanks,
Dave

Dwane 02-27-2009 01:27 PM

I have a set of 34 maximus 5 blades, I like them they carry the high on the water.

39 Unlimited 02-28-2009 04:17 AM

I had a set of maximus 5 blades on a 35 with 525's. Like Dwane indicated, they do carry the boat higher in the water and cruise great but at WOT lost 4 MPH.

Tim at OCM has had good results with the Hering 5 blade Bravo's. Saw significant pick up on top end with good manners over 90 MPH. I am going to try a set of these this spring.

Linster 02-28-2009 05:26 AM

For a few MPH, they are worth it. What are they about 900 a piece?

Steve Zuckerman 02-28-2009 10:21 AM

Has anyone run P5-Xs on a Flame? They work so well on the Heat (much better than the Maximus I've run), you would think they would work well on a twin engine application too.
They are smaller in diameter (15"s) than the Maximus, still have great top end and midrange efficiency, and handle very well on my boat.
BTW, some friends here are running the Hydro Quad 4-Xs on 35' Fountains at 100MPH. Much less expensive than the P-5s, and they seem to run run very well out of the box.
As soon as I get back on the water, I'm going to try one on my Heat.
FYI,
Steve

CB-BLR 02-28-2009 02:24 PM

Tim also has a set of P5-x's the he tried on his 35, and did not like them at all.

Chris

Steve Zuckerman 02-28-2009 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by CB-BLR (Post 2810851)
Tim also has a set of P5-x's the he tried on his 35, and did not like them at all.

Chris

Why not? Too fast :grinser010::rolleyes:?
Steve

CB-BLR 02-28-2009 10:49 PM

Steve,

The P5-x's were slower, and did not make the boat handle as well on the top end. They are also not as smooth as the Herings.

Chris

P.S. On a seperate note, I have found the 5 bladed, bravo style Hering props to be as fast or faster than a Bravo on the top end, and have more speed at cruise than any other prop I have tried on my Heat. They are also noticably smoother than any other prop I have tried on my boat... P5x's included.

Rage 03-02-2009 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by CB-BLR (Post 2811126)
Steve,

The P5-x's were slower, and did not make the boat handle as well on the top end. They are also not as smooth as the Herings.

Chris

P.S. On a seperate note, I have found the 5 bladed, bravo style Hering props to be as fast or faster than a Bravo on the top end, and have more speed at cruise than any other prop I have tried on my Heat. They are also noticably smoother than any other prop I have tried on my boat... P5x's included.

Would you expand on what you mean by "smooth"?

CB-BLR 03-02-2009 09:57 AM

That is a little hard to describe... but I will try.

They feel better balanced, and like they go thru the water easier, and with less effort. They are obviously better hooked up, because of the lower slip numbers than even a P5x. They are exceptionally fast in both the mid range and top end.

Overall, when you try one on just about any boat, you can tell that you are driving with a superior product. It just feels better and different than any other props I have tried.

The prop feels different; like the difference between a clapped out, 1973 Ford F-350, and a new Mercedes 600 class.

Smooth and Powerful.

Maybe not quite that extreme... but extremely noticable.

They must be doing something right, because I believe Hering has more super-boat championships than any other prop.

Chris

Whipple Charged 03-05-2009 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by OCM (Post 2797114)
We have a 35ft Vee Carbon/Kevlar layup with 525's. It runs mid 90's .
You would think 700sci would run 100+

Tim
oregoncustommarine.com

I would think the 35 would be even faster than 100 with 700's, I'm thinking 110 maybe. I worked on 1 like 9 years ago with 502 mags, and SC's, it did 98mph with dual 625hp but it was a handful! But now, carbon layup, better drives, higher X, better props, more power, should be able to easily eclipse the 100+ area.

Rage 03-06-2009 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by CB-BLR (Post 2811976)
That is a little hard to describe... but I will try.

They feel better balanced, and like they go thru the water easier, and with less effort. They are obviously better hooked up, because of the lower slip numbers than even a P5x. They are exceptionally fast in both the mid range and top end.

Overall, when you try one on just about any boat, you can tell that you are driving with a superior product. It just feels better and different than any other props I have tried.

The prop feels different; like the difference between a clapped out, 1973 Ford F-350, and a new Mercedes 600 class.

Smooth and Powerful.

Maybe not quite that extreme... but extremely noticable.

They must be doing something right, because I believe Hering has more super-boat championships than any other prop.

Chris

Thanks.

How is Hering to work with on getting the best set up for an individual boat?

CB-BLR 03-06-2009 10:39 AM

They have exchanged props for me a couple of times, and have let me demo four of them.

It probably doesnt hurt that I live 25 minutes from their manufacturing facility.

Chris


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