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Originally Posted by 4195
(Post 2981378)
I don't care what you guys say I love Riccio!:kiss: I think Kevin should get those puppies running and send the Bullet to Florida so in March we have something to do. I will pay for the gas, and there won't be to many people because we already know Jay won't come.
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I'll take a seat on that trip cause there's no way in he!! Jens letting Jay go!
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Okay I will change the subject. Kevin said he wanted to do a party at his house, the only weekend I have trouble with Nov. 7th What works for everyone else? Kev what kind of party is it gonna be? What can I bring????Possibly Riccio:evilb:
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Don't worry jason i wouldn't let kevin bash bajas to much before i cut in.I will do a little prop swap the day you guys go out in the 3 or 4 footers like kevin said his boat is in my back yard.
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Originally Posted by 33-outlaw
(Post 2981431)
Don't worry jason i wouldn't let kevin bash bajas to much before i cut in.I will do a little prop swap the day you guys go out in the 3 or 4 footers like kevin said his boat is in my back yard.
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Originally Posted by JayFan
(Post 2981385)
Kev....what is THIS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And again.... from a guy doesn't even OWN a 15 foot Boston Whaler! :bsflag:
Paulie...I don't think I'd be busting on people who "might" let you ride with them (for free!). I thought you were a smart dude! :party-smiley-004: :Whatever::hitfan::Whatever: |
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Okay I am going to post something serious on this thread for the first time. In the Bullet vs. Baja debate I can offer somewhat impartial imput. First I like Baja boats, they make an affordable,good looking,good riding and relatively quick boat. The Cigarette made or makes a not so affordable and maybe overpriced good riding, good looking and also a relatively quick boat. Both boats are going to have peak performance in different conditions and at different times. My opinion is that the build quality is greater in the Cig not to say that the Baja is not above normal(Ibelieve it is). I also think that the resale of the Cigarette is going to be better, although you do pay for it in the purchase. I owned an 89 Baja with twin 454's on bravos and I beat that thing like Rolli beats his monkey. I never had aproblem with the hull or any structural concerns. My biggest problem was the refrigarator came flying out in 4 footers and bounced around (they don't belong in those boats). The ride was great in 2 foot chop or 3ft. rollers. When it got rougher then that the boat would come out of the water very easy and it was hard to maintain speed above 40mph. I have aslo stuffed the nose once or twice. If I was to pick on the boat I would say the length and weight where among my biggest complaints in rough water, the flip side theboat went pretty fast with small dependable stock power. When I bought the Cafe I noticed a very different feel driving in rough water it will take alot of what Long Island sound has to throw at it without breaking a sweat. The other side to that is it is heavier and requires much more power and much more fuel. Also the Cigarette was 2 1/2 times the price. I know I am comparing an older Baja to an older Cig so it is not an apples to apples comparison but just some of my thoughts on the subject. Being what the used boat market is you all better start to appreciate what you have because you may need to hold on to it for a while. There is something to be said about the ride of a nice heavy boat, but at the same time there is something to be said for going fast with stock power and actually getting to go out on your boat opposed to wrenching.....you decide
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Well said, and I like the Baja Pic. Havent seen that boat in a while. I guess Jason and I would have a better "arguement" if the 2 boats we're comparing were evenly priced when they were new. I have the original invoice for the Cig when it was purchased which was 200K. Im sure Jasons boat was under 100k new. So as far as price goes, we're comparing apples to oranges. I guess its not fair for me to say my boat handle better in the rough stuff, when my boat was double the price of his. If both boats were 200k, then we could poke at each others boats and compare the boats dollar for dollar. So, Jason , stop critiquing my old tank of a boat !! We CAN however compare the 292 Formula against the 30 Outlaw!! This is going to be fuuunnn!!!!!!!!!!:angry-smiley-038:
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Originally Posted by 33-outlaw
(Post 2981431)
Don't worry jason i wouldn't let kevin bash bajas to much before i cut in.I will do a little prop swap the day you guys go out in the 3 or 4 footers like kevin said his boat is in my back yard.
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Originally Posted by 4195
(Post 2981477)
Okay I am going to post something serious on this thread for the first time. In the Bullet vs. Baja debate I can offer somewhat impartial imput. First I like Baja boats, they make an affordable,good looking,good riding and relatively quick boat. The Cigarette made or makes a not so affordable and maybe overpriced good riding, good looking and also a relatively quick boat. Both boats are going to have peak performance in different conditions and at different times. My opinion is that the build quality is greater in the Cig not to say that the Baja is not above normal(Ibelieve it is). I also think that the resale of the Cigarette is going to be better, although you do pay for it in the purchase. I owned an 89 Baja with twin 454's on bravos and I beat that thing like Rolli beats his monkey. I never had aproblem with the hull or any structural concerns. My biggest problem was the refrigarator came flying out in 4 footers and bounced around (they don't belong in those boats). The ride was great in 2 foot chop or 3ft. rollers. When it got rougher then that the boat would come out of the water very easy and it was hard to maintain speed above 40mph. I have aslo stuffed the nose once or twice. If I was to pick on the boat I would say the length and weight where among my biggest complaints in rough water, the flip side theboat went pretty fast with small dependable stock power. When I bought the Cafe I noticed a very different feel driving in rough water it will take alot of what Long Island sound has to throw at it without breaking a sweat. The other side to that is it is heavier and requires much more power and much more fuel. Also the Cigarette was 2 1/2 times the price. I know I am comparing an older Baja to an older Cig so it is not an apples to apples comparison but just some of my thoughts on the subject. Being what the used boat market is you all better start to appreciate what you have because you may need to hold on to it for a while. There is something to be said about the ride of a nice heavy boat, but at the same time there is something to be said for going fast with stock power and actually getting to go out on your boat opposed to wrenching.....you decide
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