LOL, you a-holes are killing me! :D

Frank,
No egg beaters or sutphens at this time. Donzi looks nice though.

Kev,
I was interested in that 36 Skater, but a little birdy mentioned something about moisture issues. Dont think its had the tanks changed either $$$... plus bravos, distance, and steel trailer make it less appealing.


Still waiting for Scott to call me on that $120k 42 OL! :drink:

Well, Dan is going to have to work his magic on the OL Scot......if he has time. He must be reeeally busy cause he hasnt PM'd me back yet.... 2 PM's ago! :drink:

I could bet money on that Shogren wont sell that 42 for 120K.

The OL forum has been busy lately! :lolhit:

Maybe he's just ignoring you??? :angry-smiley-038:


Me too, I'm still waiting for Scott to call! :drink:

Okay Scot, You sure are hard to shop for but I think I found your boat. No drive issues a real eye catcher and not another one around!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Rare-...#ht_500wt_1182

Oh yeah also in your price range

One more
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o32657-en.html

Bang:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o30676-en.html
-Mike

Another good lookin deal
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o35948-en.html
-Mike

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...ts-42-97961588

Its all you Scott.:D Talk em down a bit.

I am a big apache fan.
scot doesnt like them though.

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/10473
More then you want to spend but looks kick azz
http://outerbanks.craigslist.org/boa/2125397391.html
-Mike

Not a hustler fan at all. Do like th Ob set up though.

That sutphen for 79K is a smokin deal Scot couldnt handle owning a sutphen though.LOL

Too many nay sayers for him to handle.

Hes gonna end up a cig guy.IMO:party-smiley-004:

Dan i know someone workin that guy right now
-Mike

Who would that be Mike? Pm me if desired. The boat was in Mass at one point in its life.

He has something to do with the Fall River poker run and one had a Cafe......
-Mike

Boats always look killer pulled up on the sand like that.

I like the paint too

Is it me or has Scots price range gotten a bit out of hand,LOL

Oh yep yep. He came and looked at a 42 we had last year but I didnt think he was looking to spend 300K. Will make him a nice boat. Would love to have some more OL's at that poker run.

Here it is I have the perfect boat for him.

We all know he likes low maintenance and doesnt want to work on the engines at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0pXHNvCxAk

Once I get in the right setting ill have a 37/42. 5-10 years sadly but IT WILL HAPPEN
Dan how much do you know about the 37 OL that was at Fall River this year. I never saw it before.
-Mike

Its Bob Bowmans. He was the navigator on Harry Turners Obsession race team back in the day when Mike throttled. It out of woods hole during the summer. But im an idiot so it's probably all bullchit!!:evilb::D

I like it! just a differant game then im in right now. How goes your hunt.
Scot any of thse peak the intrest
-Mike

Now thats good taste in boats.

I cant ebelive I actually agree with SICK on something:eek:

30 one day ill be rollin in one. But for now. Its a Cig
-Mike

when you do I want a ride. I will probably never bring myself to spend that kind of coin on a boat.

You never know though guess.

I think Id buy a plane first thats my next toy I really want.

the I gotta get a R44 like Eddie D has that thing is fun as hell!

Ok , no airplane talk on this thread. You cant get an airplane Jeff. With your track record of making dead lines and cut off times, youll be crash landing your first flight! Besides, who in their right mind is going to get into an airplane with you????? Hahahahaha.......Scot, lots of nice options here. I forgot about Apache. You dont like them? I know their heavy, but on certain days, theres nothing that will beat you to Block Island! I mean, the day of the Pavillion run, Franks Cafe beat everyone! There was 3 Skaters there too! Just sayin.....Actually, my Bullet passed 2 outboard Skaters(32's) on the way to Montauk. Talked to them both in Montauk and they said it was just too rough for them to go any faster. Unless you get a big cat (36 and up), its only gonna be a confortable ride in 4 footers and less. I bet Tsunami rides better than the Motion in 4 footers.....Dan? Going to Block with 2 couples in 4 footers, which boat is a better ride?..............That Sutphen may be a good boat for you Scot!

i was in the back of the pack that day...just making sure everyone made it to montauk ok...hahaha god i need a bigger boat.

Jeff and to anyone else not a problem at all happy to have anyone aboard
-Mike

Depends on the kind of waves, ie rollers big close chop ect. Going head on into the waves the Motion will run better in 3-4's. In a following sea the cats a litte tricky. The Sutphen will run fine no matter what direction or kind of waves but it wont run as fast as the Motion through them. Any bigger and I'd rather be in the Sutphen.

That looks pretty intriguing, but by the time I bought it, got it back, and fixed it up I think I'd be in it deep than I'd want to be. Looks like a sweet boat though!

Sorry guys, I haven't had a chance to check everything out.

I will say the more I think about it, the more I'm agreeing with Jeff's comment above (did I just say that???), the price range might be getting out of hand. Sure it would be great to go buy a 42 OL or a TS TG, but I'm not so sure I want to get this deep in boat.

I was thinking on the way to work about how much $120k is. To some on here that's pocket change. Yesterday I came home and found a friend up the road from me had listed her house on the market. I gave her a call since we haven't talked. Long story short, she lost her job months ago and listed the house to keep from going into bankruptcy. She listed it WAY below market value to sell ASAP, let's just say that $120k would cover a huge portion of the cost of the house. I guess that's when it hit me just home much $120k was when thought about that nice house near the water on an acre compared to a well used 10 year old boat that can be used a few months out of the year and cost an arm and a leg to maintain... never mind the continued depredation.

Now granted I dont need another house, then again, I'm only half sure I need another boat. :D

$120k is also several years of retirement...


Still looking and considering options... and waiting for Scott to call me about that 42 OL he has! ;)

This why I keep my money invested and use the cheap money the bank has. This way I can have something I want and sure I pay some interest (boat is write off though) and maintance and depreciation without losing any momentum for the future. Exapmple I buy a boat for $120k use it for 3-4 years and sell it $85-$100k. I bought my Cafe 8 years ago for $60k put another $50-$60k into it and sold it for little more then I bought it for. So it cost me $50,000 for 8 years of fun and memories. I am okay with that. In my line of work I watch people saving for the future and unfortunately not everyone makes it to retirement. I am not advocating living for toady(to many do that now) but you can't always wait for tomorrow either. it is a balance. So when it came time for me to buy a new boat I figured prices where the most attractive I have seen them and financing is cheap enough to make sense. So I figured these next 10 years would br the time I would enjoy the boat the most. Besides whats a hundred grande on a boat when you $150k plus in cars you can only drive one at a time. Come on Scot jump in the water is fine and we really want you out there this summer.

I think Frank makes ALOT of good points here. The most important one IMO is "then next 10 years of our lives." Im now 40. Everyone in this sport at this level is around or older than us. (Except moses and Dan) To me, life is too short. My wife is always complaining about the money we spend on boating(until she gets out there:drink:) and I just think that we work too hard for our money and Im going to enjoy life NOW! Not when Im 60 or 65. When Im 65 Ill be sittin in a cruiser(not police) in FLA. somewhere watching all the 250 MPH Outerlimits pleasure boats go by reminiscing about the summer of 2011 and old man Scots OL back then. For me 40 to 50 is all I have left to go fast and go crazy. After that, I suspect I will settle down and enjoy the last 40...ok 10 years of life with my girlfriend and a fishin pole.:eek: So, after all this non-sense Im blabbing about Scot, you can have the best 3 years of your life before you turn 50! I say live for today, who knows what tomorrow brings?

Ok, so we dont put you in the poor house........ With ARENSONS!!http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o32035-en.html

Okay we have now redone the budget

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o37640-en.html

I don't know why but I love this boat...I am not sure why I just can't put my finger on it

Frank,
Believe me, I agree with most of your points and have thought them through many times. With that said, I dont want to finance a toy. I never have, and I don't want to start. My rule of thumb is if I can't pay cash for it, I really dont need it. Sure, I could go out and buy and/or finance an incredible boat, I just dont think it's the wisest thing for ME to do.

The problem is I see the opportunity cost of spending this kind of money and it certainly makes me think twice. I've saved for the future and continue to do so. The excessive cars have been a lot of fun, but I'm getting closer to thinning that heard as well. Sure a nice 42 Tiger or OL would be great fun, but I'm thinking the wiser move FOR ME would probably be to put that money I would have spent on toys into real estate or in the market, while they (like boats) are still suppressed. Then find something that will still be fun and get the job done, yet be a little more modest. Although, I'm still not ready for a windshield! :D I'll be out on the water either way and enjoying my 'youth' anyway you look at it... as I always have. ;)


Kev,
I'm loving that LS, but the drive to pick it up might be a bit@h!

This is my new favorite thread.....................:bigbird:

We gotta have something to pass the time! :lolhit: How long before warm weather?????

Scot I have a seat for you, just don't give it up to Charlie:blaster:. You buy beer and food and handle the lines and we will have a blast and we can wait for Jeff together

Aren't boat loans between 7.5-10% depending on year etc. etc.? I don't call that "cheap" money..... not when home loans are in the mid 3's. Just my 2 cents. But boats are way more fun.... I totally agree with ya there Frank.