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Nickotine 03-20-2012 09:04 AM

Catamaran or Deep V?
 
So I always ask this question and I know it all depends on the certain conditions you boat in whether it's a lake or ocean but overall, what is THE BEST choice...cat or V? I know there have been other threads on the same question too but i never got a clear answer I'm prepared to read a lot of arguments in response...:lolhit::angry-smiley-038:

SS930 03-20-2012 09:07 AM

Strap your seatbelts on for this one folks! :D

Wally 03-20-2012 09:30 AM

There really is no "BEST OVER ALL" choice. Its what you want to get out of boating that fits your style.

kreed 03-20-2012 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Nickotine (Post 3645190)
So I always ask this question and I know it all depends on the certain conditions you boat in whether it's a lake or ocean but overall, what is THE BEST choice...cat or V? I know there have been other threads on the same question too but i never got a clear answer I'm prepared to read a lot of arguments in response...:lolhit::angry-smiley-038:

I say stick with the Cafe you own presently! Great boats! :cartman:

Downtown42 03-20-2012 09:42 AM

Darr, you there?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...es/JimDarr.jpg

kreed 03-20-2012 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Downtown42 (Post 3645226)

Hahahahahah! You dont miss a beat! :lolhit: :lolhit: :lolhit:

SS930 03-20-2012 09:49 AM

DT, it could be, but I'm not quite ready to throw the flag yet... I'm still waiting for some of the telltale signs. ;)

fireboatpilot 03-20-2012 11:09 AM

How deep are your pockets? Before you consider a cat check out what your insurance will cost, if you can even find a carrier assuming you would be a first time cat owner? That alone might sway your decision. IMO a cat is a better ride.

WildThing47 03-20-2012 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by fireboatpilot (Post 3645316)
how deep are your pockets? Before you consider a cat check out what your insurance will cost, if you can even find a carrier assuming you would be a first time cat owner? That alone might sway your decision. Imo a cat is a better ride.

+1

Nickotine 03-20-2012 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by fireboatpilot (Post 3645316)
How deep are your pockets? Before you consider a cat check out what your insurance will cost, if you can even find a carrier assuming you would be a first time cat owner? That alone might sway your decision. IMO a cat is a better ride.

Don't worry, I'm only 14, I don't plan on buying my dream 50' Mystic for a while but you do have a good point. And don't worry Kreed, we wont be selling the cafe for a LONG time

kreed 03-20-2012 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Nickotine (Post 3645356)
Don't worry, I'm only 14, I don't plan on buying my dream 50' Mystic for a while but you do have a good point. And don't worry Kreed, we wont be selling the cafe for a LONG time

Is that your dads Cafe Nick? What power? We have some cat fans around here. SS930 is one for sure....

Nickotine 03-20-2012 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3645362)
Is that your dads Cafe Nick? What power? We have some cat fans around here. SS930 is one for sure....

Id like to call it "our" cafe but yes, it's his :) it has twin HP 500s (hopefully to have blowers in the comming years)

Gladhe8er 03-20-2012 02:58 PM

Nice choice coming to the Northeast section for this question! Everyone in this section is a genius when it comes to fiberglass, motors, chicks, cars, drinking, eating, farting....

1MOSES1 03-20-2012 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Nickotine (Post 3645416)
Id like to call it "our" cafe but yes, it's his :) it has twin HP 500s (hopefully to have blowers in the comming years)

you have joined an exclusive group...in more ways than one :party-smiley-004:

4195 03-20-2012 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Nickotine (Post 3645416)
Id like to call it "our" cafe but yes, it's his :) it has twin HP 500s (hopefully to have blowers in the comming years)

Post up a pic of the Cafe, I had a 93 that I completely redid. Great boats. Do yourself a favor and don't spend anytime in here I wish I spent my time in a mountain bike forum, it is way to expensive in here.

242LS 03-20-2012 04:54 PM

Notice to all parents
 

Originally Posted by Nickotine (Post 3645190)
So I always ask this question and I know it all depends on the certain conditions you boat in whether it's a lake or ocean but overall, what is THE BEST choice...cat or V? I know there have been other threads on the same question too but i never got a clear answer I'm prepared to read a lot of arguments in response...:lolhit::angry-smiley-038:

What are you doing on OSO? I was very clear when I said to stay away. The people on here are not a good influence. Cancel your account and don't ever post here again! (I feel like the father who put the bullet in the laptop)

242LS 03-20-2012 04:57 PM

JUST KIDDING!!! (about some of that). :lolhit:

Welcome aboard son!

4195, here are some pix of "our" Cafe....

Nickotine 03-20-2012 07:43 PM

I know the question is basically like asking "which religion is the right one?" but if you HAD to choose, taking both speed and waves into consideration...

the deep 03-20-2012 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Nickotine (Post 3645632)
I know the question is basically like asking "which religion is the right one?" but if you HAD to choose, taking both speed and waves into consideration...

I'll get this party started , very simple , if it's not a cat , it's a dog.....:poopoo:....:angry-smiley-038:....:lolhit::lolhit:

AIR TIME 03-20-2012 09:18 PM

skater 46the right one
 

Originally Posted by Nickotine (Post 3645632)
I know the question is basically like asking "which religion is the right one?" but if you HAD to choose, taking both speed and waves into consideration...

wellllll theres only one!!! Gerry's KNOT RIGHT 46 TURBINE SKATER. it will cruise in 3 to 5 footers at 100 to 120 gps. will out run any vee around here. has run the NYPR at 170gps, named king of the pokerrun that day in 03 I think. you can sleep 6:bunnydance: [good friends] in it,potty in it,and drink in it up to 145 [juice] . for vee's there's two OUTERLIMITS and SUTPHEN well, CIGs and Sabers too I guess. as a hurricane was coming to KEY WEST in 1994 at the worlds ,skater's 46 footers won superboat class and open class. beating the three motor vees.:eekdrop: artie out:cartman:ps Gerry thanks man!!

Nickotine 03-21-2012 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 3645716)
wellllll theres only one!!! Gerry's KNOT RIGHT 46 TURBINE SKATER. it will cruise in 3 to 5 footers at 100 to 120 gps. will out run any vee around here. has run the NYPR at 170gps, named king of the pokerrun that day in 03 I think. you can sleep 6:bunnydance: [good friends] in it,potty in it,and drink in it up to 145 [juice] . for vee's there's two OUTERLIMITS and SUTPHEN well, CIGs and Sabers too I guess. as a hurricane was coming to KEY WEST in 1994 at the worlds ,skater's 46 footers won superboat class and open class. beating the three motor vees.:eekdrop: artie out:cartman:ps Gerry thanks man!!

Im VERY familiar with his Skater (a.k.a. My future boat) and I'm hoping for a test run in it this summer :) but i can't imagine towing a 46' skater around town :lolhit::eekdrop:

Black Wishbone 03-23-2012 09:19 AM

I'm going to give my 1/2 a cent here and would like to say a straight bottom Vee. They are not the fastest boat out there by any means but the handling is more direct and you can feel what the boat is really doing(kinda like manual steering vs steering by wire) you can feel the water not just flying on top of it. But that's just me I have a straight vee and a manual steering sports car and I like them just they way they are.
Steve

Nickotine 03-25-2012 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Black Wishbone (Post 3647510)
I'm going to give my 1/2 a cent here and would like to say a straight bottom Vee. They are not the fastest boat out there by any means but the handling is more direct and you can feel what the boat is really doing(kinda like manual steering vs steering by wire) you can feel the water not just flying on top of it. But that's just me I have a straight vee and a manual steering sports car and I like them just they way they are.
Steve

I think I'm leaning towards a straight v as you said because I agree with the speed aspect and the handling. I feel like size of the catamaran would be important. I would love to do 120+ in a cat but I feel like in order to be comfortable in the big waves, you would need a larger cat (40-50ish feet). But seeing the AmsOil Skater bouncing around in races can't be to comfortable and that's a 36' Douglas Skater...(granted it's doing 120+ in large waves)

Nickotine 03-25-2012 07:39 PM

Can we get a cat guy in here?? :daz:

MIskier 03-25-2012 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Nickotine (Post 3648999)
I think I'm leaning towards a straight v as you said because I agree with the speed aspect and the handling. I feel like size of the catamaran would be important. I would love to do 120+ in a cat but I feel like in order to be comfortable in the big waves, you would need a larger cat (40-50ish feet). But seeing the AmsOil Skater bouncing around in races can't be to comfortable and that's a 36' Douglas Skater...(granted it's doing 120+ in large waves)

The reason the boat looks like it is bouncing so much is due to the fact that the majority of the boat is being supported aerodynamically, with only a very small portion of the boats total weight being supported by the hull. This actually results in the ride of a cat being much better than a vee in many conditions.

Nickotine 03-25-2012 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by MIskier (Post 3649082)
The reason the boat looks like it is bouncing so much is due to the fact that the majority of the boat is being supported aerodynamically, with only a very small portion of the boats total weight being supported by the hull. This actually results in the ride of a cat being much better than a vee in many conditions.

That makes sense because your practically flying over the water but this video doesn't make it look to comforting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EYrPPL9F5U:lolhit:

WildThing47 03-25-2012 10:24 PM

That's an absolutely fantastic example, that cat is running GREAT...it's also a race boat...and that's some snotty water.... it's also running that on 525s.....

Anything 40+ft in big water....will run in it...Cat or Vee, it's personal preference...if you're up at the 46ft level, either will do very well in good sized water...and be able to keep up at good speeds, but remember, we're talking running head on, anything will get funky if you're getting a side sea...quarter sea, following sea, it's all the variables, there's no things a big Vee or a Big cat really can't handle...

Straight bottom, great, for steps, Outerlimits, everyone knows my stance, it is bar none the best rough water boat....WITH STEPS, period...

I think the 42 is one of the greatest hulls ever to come out of there, you want a serious comfortable ride in a 3-4ft roller chop...you can run 85 in an OL if not faster and you just don't feel i t, it's amazing....there's no business...straight bottom is great...however I'm going to have to disagree, I won't ever run a non-stepped boat again, for the speed, handling, and rough water characteristics OL has it for me...


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