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DareDevil 12-03-2008 09:51 AM

Whatcha Think Outlaw Class Single !?
 
Ok ,lets get opinions for a single engine ,max 32 feet and N/A engines only Class in OPA or other org.

Could we do that ?
How many whant that ?
Will OPA allow it ?

Run as fast as you can to win ,like back when !!!!!

No more GPS games ,no "breake out" !?

Lets hear it .:cool-smiley-027:

fantastixvoyage 12-03-2008 10:27 AM

For a starting point:

- Post the A-class rules as written

- Details on how APBA did their tech for a spec class. This could prove difficult to manage. maybe look at how other organizations manage this (P1, SCCA, NMCA, etc).

- Input from those who raced in the spec classes (A, F1, etc) . Pros and cons to better the class.

- Input from those interested


OPA has been a success because it looks out for the interest of the organization/class as a whole, with emphasis on a level playing field for deck to deck racing. Same should carry over here. I like the idea of this because there are some who do not like the GPS/bracket style of racing and this would give them another option while still racing under the OPA banner.

First thought is what happens when one boat dominates? Do you impose weight penalties? Maybe alter the starting grid?

I look forward to the input.

DareDevil 12-03-2008 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by fantastixvoyage (Post 2751862)
For a starting point:

- Post the A-class rules as written

- Details on how APBA did their tech for a spec class. This could prove difficult to manage. maybe look at how other organizations manage this (P1, SCCA, NMCA, etc).

- Input from those who raced in the spec classes (A, F1, etc) . Pros and cons to better the class.

- Input from those interested


OPA has been a success because it looks out for the interest of the organization/class as a whole, with emphasis on a level playing field for deck to deck racing. Same should carry over here. I like the idea of this because there are some who do not like the GPS/bracket style of racing and this would give them another option while still racing under the OPA banner.

First thought is what happens when one boat dominates? Do you impose weight penalties? Maybe alter the starting grid?

I look forward to the input.

Well,,,,there has to be a min. & max weight for that class.
But it should depend on length of the boat somehow?!,,,,,
Then the engine displacement for the 27-29 footers which are lighter needs to be limited to 510 CI and the 29-32 limited to 540 CI all N/A ,,drives dont matter because if you run SSM you have a tranny or crashbox and lose a little HP verses the Bravo's ,,,,,
I say min weight ,,,race ready should be 4800-5800 and max5400-6400 #.
Canopied boats need to be max because of there advantage in raceconditions verses open boats.

Thats my thought ????????????:party-smiley-004:

PS.: the simpler-the better.

Bilgerat 12-03-2008 10:47 AM

Daredevil, Remember me??? By the way you do know that JC has an Activator or two don't you??

BRUCE SEROFF 12-03-2008 11:12 AM

I think you guys are spinning your wheels with this.

I doubt very much you will get enough teams with the cash flow to build and maintain their BBs. Scott you cant keep from blowing up now. Why make it more difficult. For the money you are gonna spend keeping your program together, you can be in a F-1 or SVL.

And on top of that, no one is gonna want to hang around to tech the motors after the race.

Like you said...keep it simple. Just my opinion

fantastixvoyage 12-03-2008 11:22 AM

Probably spinning our wheels but it is interesting discussions.

SVL doesn't interest me because I'm an engine guy and am not really interested in a spec 525 that I order from a catalog. I enjoy building my own power. Now having a set of rules that I had to build to and we worked on getting the most power is where its at! :ernaehrung004:

But I do agree it will be extremely tough to keep it simple and have the tech necessary to make it happen (boat weigh in, engine tech, etc). If it was easy I'd guess there would be no reason for the GPS/bracket classes.

BRUCE SEROFF 12-03-2008 11:39 AM

You have an advantage. most guys cant build their own power, nor do they have the time or cash to keep rebuilding.

Yes, its a great challenge to build a competitive motor and a greater reward if you do well.

lightspeed 12-03-2008 12:43 PM

If I Remember A Class Was 510 CI 9.5 Compression Ratio,Steel Heads,Stock Dual Plain Manifold ,850 Carb And Cast Iron Exhaust Manifolds Or 355CI Twin Small Blocks Same As Above ,,Like RC Marines 30 Superboat, that Boat Was The Class Of The Field Back Then

phragle 12-03-2008 01:05 PM

I my non racing, just a spectator mind your trying to reinvent the wheel. smitty has classes for every speed range, the only problem I see is the classes people choose to run. if your class does 80, run an 80 mph boat, not a proped down 90 mph boat, a 90 mph boat belongs in a 90 mph class, running 80 is sand bagging. if everybody in a class runs a boat that is only optimally capable of going a mile or two an hour over the limit, you stop racing the gps and start racing the other boats. you become a better driver/throttle man. racing is about going as fast as you can. if somebody wants to race numbers, buy a wrx and start doing rallys Adding more classes to suit your technology is like a snowball rolling down hill. just join the snowball fight in progress and play fair, you may get smacked in the face a few times but when you finally do score a direct hit it will feel much better than trying to start a seperate snowball fight for some new fangled acmee 2000 auto snowball launcher

DareDevil 12-03-2008 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Bilgerat (Post 2751879)
Daredevil, Remember me??? By the way you do know that JC has an Activator or two don't you??

Yes ,,,i know about the activators,,,,,but without blowers in that class,,,,he would be equal to my boat.

Also a-class motors where 10-1 compr. and yes 510 ci max of 1050 carb.


Oh and Bruce,,,i think i break because of i cant run my motor WOT .LOL

The engine needs to breath ,hahaha


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