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Glennthecanadian 12-01-2014 04:21 PM

XXX back in Florida for sale
 
XXX has just arrived in Florida from the fresh water of Georgian Bay and is available for sale. The boat is perfect and ready to go. 47 GTX sit down carbon fiber canopy boat.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o59962-en.html

SLOWRIDE-388 12-03-2014 08:36 PM

Good luck on the sale Glenn. It's one bad ass ride

May see ya at the beach soon!

thunderusone 12-04-2014 07:27 AM

What's up with the carb roots motors? I have never heard of the engine builder. He may be excellent, I have just never heard of him. It's a a mean ride for sure and the money is right for that power.....but personally I would be looking for modern efi, whipple charged motors with knock protection at that power level. It's nice getting over 200 turn key hours at that power level between refresh intervals.

CIG3 12-04-2014 07:43 AM

This boat being a 2005 and having the roots/carb set-up is not unheard of for the vintage. The screw blowers and e.f.i. stuff have really only come on in the last 5 years.

Dave has been around for a lot of years. Never heard a bad word about his work.

WESCO Racing Engines
Dave Wesseldyk
6742 18th Ave.
Jenison, Mi 49428
616-662-2250
http://www.wescoracingengines.com/

thunderusone 12-04-2014 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by CIG3 (Post 4229886)
This boat being a 2005 and having the roots/carb set-up is not unheard of for the vintage. The screw blowers and e.f.i. stuff have really only come on in the last 5 years.

Dave has been around for a lot of years. Never heard a bad word about his work.

WESCO Racing Engines
Dave Wesseldyk
6742 18th Ave.
Jenison, Mi 49428
616-662-2250
http://www.wescoracingengines.com/

Ok, now I know who it is. I have always heard good things about Wesco as well. I didn't know who owned it. I am familiar with the boat. I think it originally had 1075 mercs in it. When they redid it, I just didn't understand why they would go backwards in technology at this level of boat. Carbed roots set ups are cheaper to build but they do not have the power and dependability that a well built whipple EFI with knock protection above the 1000hp mark. You will pay way more than the initial cost difference to build modern EFI with knock protection within the first 50 hours of use if you run a big power carbed roots setup hard.

Jupiter Sunsation 12-04-2014 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by thunderusone (Post 4229957)
Ok, now I know who it is. I have always heard good things about Wesco as well. I didn't know who owned it. I am familiar with the boat. I think it originally had 1075 mercs in it. When they redid it, I just didn't understand why they would go backwards in technology at this level of boat. Carbed roots set ups are cheaper to build but they do not have the power and dependability that a well built whipple EFI with knock protection above the 1000hp mark. You will pay way more than the initial cost difference to build modern EFI with knock protection within the first 50 hours of use if you run a big power carbed roots setup hard.

Boat was built with big HP Sterlings (to make the record run). Then it got an early set of 1075's and would barely finish a poker run, towards the end it was blowing parts every time it left the dock. Owner traded it to Nortech for a new 44 cat. NT didn't know what to do with it so they repainted it/new interior and Shogren got involved with the re-rig/resale.

TJIndy280 12-04-2014 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by thunderusone (Post 4229957)
Ok, now I know who it is. I have always heard good things about Wesco as well. I didn't know who owned it. I am familiar with the boat. I think it originally had 1075 mercs in it. When they redid it, I just didn't understand why they would go backwards in technology at this level of boat. Carbed roots set ups are cheaper to build but they do not have the power and dependability that a well built whipple EFI with knock protection above the 1000hp mark. You will pay way more than the initial cost difference to build modern EFI with knock protection within the first 50 hours of use if you run a big power carbed roots setup hard.

It is my understanding that this is what Wesseldyk is known for, I know of him doing this to a 46' BT, but still a very nice build. I fully understand the point you are making and it makes sense for sure.

SS930 12-04-2014 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4230234)
Boat was built with big HP Sterlings (to make the record run). Then it got an early set of 1075's and would barely finish a poker run, towards the end it was blowing parts every time it left the dock. Owner traded it to Nortech for a new 44 cat. NT didn't know what to do with it so they repainted it/new interior and Shogren got involved with the re-rig/resale.

That about sums it up. With all the price drops after the redo and new power, I was shocked how low it was down to before it sold! It was one hell of a deal!

benjen 12-04-2014 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4230234)
Boat was built with big HP Sterlings (to make the record run). Then it got an early set of 1075's and would barely finish a poker run, towards the end it was blowing parts every time it left the dock. Owner traded it to Nortech for a new 44 cat. NT didn't know what to do with it so they repainted it/new interior and Shogren got involved with the re-rig/resale.

How could that be? According to so many on this site Mercury Power never breaks.

thunderusone 12-05-2014 05:19 AM

They had alot of problems with the early 1075's. They worked out alot of the kinks as time went on. If they are converted over to hydraulic roller cams, and a couple of other updates they make super 200 hr packages . Eddie Young and Mark at Precision can freshen the 1075's up you will love them.

I assume since NT did the rework that these were originally 604 cube Ron Potter motors that Dave rebuilt. They look like Potters set ups.

I also have to give credit where credit is due. I have Teague 1100 quadrotors motors and they have been the most trouble free big power motors (if 1100hp is considered big power anymore) I have ever owned.

thunderusone 12-05-2014 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 4230313)
That about sums it up. With all the price drops after the redo and new power, I was shocked how low it was down to before it sold! It was one hell of a deal!

I bet someone will get a hell of a deal again before it sells. The power will keep the price down imho. It will still be a great deal. I would just convert it and factor that into the total cost. I know I am old school but WTF is with the underwater exhaust? You might as well get a t shirt that says I'm a puss on it. If you can afford to own and maintain that boat, you can afford to pay a few noise tickets. You are looking at about $40k to convert to whipples with a new fuel system done right and another $10k to get the tails all redone and the transom plugged. That's what it would take to make me be in love with it. We will see where the price goes. He may get lucky and find a guy that this is his first one that hooks up right off the bat. I'm pulling for him!

kevlar382 12-05-2014 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by CIG3 (Post 4229886)
This boat being a 2005 and having the roots/carb set-up is not unheard of for the vintage. The screw blowers and e.f.i. stuff have really only come on in the last 5 years.

Dave has been around for a lot of years. Never heard a bad word about his work.

WESCO Racing Engines
Dave Wesseldyk
6742 18th Ave.
Jenison, Mi 49428
616-662-2250
http://www.wescoracingengines.com/

Dave is a really nice guy and really knows his stuff. One of the best engine guys out there. I have never heard a bad thing about him.

jbraun2828 12-05-2014 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by thunderusone (Post 4230352)
I bet someone will get a hell of a deal again before it sells. The power will keep the price down imho. It will still be a great deal. I would just convert it and factor that into the total cost. I know I am old school but WTF is with the underwater exhaust? You might as well get a t shirt that says I'm a puss on it. If you can afford to own and maintain that boat, you can afford to pay a few noise tickets. You are looking at about $40k to convert to whipples with a new fuel system done right and another $10k to get the tails all redone and the transom plugged. That's what it would take to make me be in love with it. We will see where the price goes. He may get lucky and find a guy that this is his first one that hooks up right off the bat. I'm pulling for him!

You obviously don't know Dave or what he is capable of. The boat may be worth less to you because it's not efi but not everyone feels the same way.

thunderusone 12-05-2014 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by jbraun2828 (Post 4230400)
You obviously don't know Dave or what he is capable of. The boat may be worth less to you because it's not efi but not everyone feels the same way.

This has nothing to do with Dave. As I said before, I have never heard anything but good things about him. What it does have to do with is roots motors over a 1000hp on pump gas with the old style intercoolers. Have you personally owned an 1100hp roots motor on pump gas and go hold it against the wood for 15 minute legs of poker runs? I'm not saying it has no value. I'm also not trying to start a pissing contest. If you love carbed roots set ups, stick with it. I'm not trying to convert anyone. I'm out. You guys can get in the bus and run over me and then back up and hit me again. I have shared all I have on this particular subject. :)

benjen 12-05-2014 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by thunderusone (Post 4230480)
This has nothing to do with Dave. As I said before, I have never heard anything but good things about him. What it does have to do with is roots motors over a 1000hp on pump gas with the old style intercoolers. Have you personally owned an 1100hp roots motor on pump gas and go hold it against the wood for 15 minute legs of poker runs? I'm not saying it has no value. I'm also not trying to start a pissing contest. If you love carbed roots set ups, stick with it. I'm not trying to convert anyone. I'm out. You guys can get in the bus and run over me and then back up and hit me again. I have shared all I have on this particular subject. :)

I for one do have a pair of 1000 hp roots, carburetor, early style intercooler motors. BTW I would never hold any motor to the mat for 15 minutes. But, have I missed something? What is your point?

Hopper 12-05-2014 05:44 PM

Glenn...... Ray says you need a new Paron lowbed!!!! but I still can't afford it :drool1:

DirtyMoney 12-05-2014 07:04 PM

Hey at least it doesn't have Cobra power!

Cash Bar 12-05-2014 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by DirtyMoney (Post 4230699)
Hey at least it doesn't have Cobra power!

I wish it did so I could offer him $100 and not feel like a d!(k. :drool1:

KAAMA 12-05-2014 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by thunderusone (Post 4230480)
This has nothing to do with Dave. As I said before, I have never heard anything but good things about him. What it does have to do with is roots motors over a 1000hp on pump gas with the old style intercoolers. Have you personally owned an 1100hp roots motor on pump gas and go hold it against the wood for 15 minute legs of poker runs? I'm not saying it has no value. I'm also not trying to start a pissing contest. If you love carbed roots set ups, stick with it. I'm not trying to convert anyone. I'm out. You guys can get in the bus and run over me and then back up and hit me again. I have shared all I have on this particular subject. :)

thundersone,...I have read your posts on this thread, and I do NOT really see any offense in them towards Dave as others may have---I seem to think they like Dave and respect his work a lot and I cannot blame them for sounding a bit protective of him. I think your comments were not disrespectful towards Dave---but of course that is only my opinion....but, and, so believe me, I know what it is like to be misunderstood when making posts in these forums---haaa! :picard1: Just so you know, I have known Dave Wesseldyke personally for about 16 years,....he's my engine builder.

Anyway, just to bring you up to speed a little about Dave......Roots vs Whipple, and carbs vs EFI, etc,---I can tell you this, I remember stopping in Dave's shop as he was rebuilding those Merc 1075hp engines for that XXX Outerlimits boat a few years ago and Dave built those engines according to what the owner wanted---stock Merc rebuilds. I would think that the majority of the time, an engine builder builds the engines the way the customer wants---of course I am sure Dave makes suggestions to the owner before the engine project plans begin, but even so, it is still the customer's choice and money. I will also say that Dave can build any EFI supercharged set-up he wants----yeah, with half his brain tied behind his back. (as Limbaugh would say)

He has 4 big cubed engines with the big PSI superchargers with EFI that he custom built back in the early 1990's---2 in the boat, and 2 sitting in his shop....I am talking about some really nasty, wild sophisticated looking stuff for the 46' Skater JAWS offshore racing team---he was doing that stuff almost 25 years ago. He can build anything that you want...he just does not advertise and hardly says a word----because it does not really matter to him if a person brings an engine to him or not as he is plenty busy doing the stuff he loves and he is very gifted and talented at it. Dave has a way of always making the sophisticated stuff look really effortless and easy.

In the last 2 days he has align honed 19 engine blocks in a row that he has to assemble for customers---and they just keep trickling in the door by 2's....and yet, you don't see him advertising anywhere, or talking much on here. He's too busy building engines, and researching how to make them run better in boats and making Boostane and shipping it out all over the world. He's extremely busy and he let's his reputation precede himself. He gets his work usually by word of mouth. People bring him engines from other states. So, yes, he is very capable and more than qualified to build the wild EFI sophisticated supercharged stuff----IF a customer really wants him too.

Relaxing 12-07-2014 06:29 AM

I don't think he bashed the engine builder very much, but what about a little support for a fellow OL owner. Not much good said about the OP boat.

PRIMECUT 12-07-2014 09:13 AM

Glenn good luck with the sale. It's one beautiful boat and someone will really enjoy it.

SLOWRIDE-388 12-07-2014 09:40 AM

It was and still is the bad ass triple XXX boat. You can not change its history. Someone will get a sweet ride.

thunderusone 12-07-2014 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Relaxing (Post 4231199)
I don't think he bashed the engine builder very much, but what about a little support for a fellow OL owner. Not much good said about the OP boat.

Jeez guys, XXX is one of the baddest rides to ever come out of the OL doors. I thought that went without saying. At least it does in the OL world. However, I stand by my comments on the roots power (Because of the technology at that power level) and the underwater exhaust. It is still a nicer boat than 99% of us will ever have the privilege to own.

KAAMA 12-07-2014 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Relaxing (Post 4231199)
I don't think he bashed the engine builder very much, but what about a little support for a fellow OL owner. Not much good said about the OP boat.

I personally did not know the owner of the XXX boat, but I think he lives in Florida or lived in Florida during that time. I just had seen his engines as they were being built/dyno tested at Dave's shop a few years ago. Later that year he brought the boat up to the Boyne Thunder Run in 2011. By the way, I think they were actually Merc 1000's...not the Merc 1075's as previously thought.


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