Which one was that?

Twin SB boat in Minn I'd guess... There was one in Canada that came up too. And the infamous Aqua Mania/Boats Unlimited Special... Always for sale and always overpriced. :D

My recollection is that there are only like 300 28 Panteras (but I've been hit in the head a lot so take that for what it's worth!) so, average number per year built since 1978 was probably around 10 per year. I know that the production didn't really work like that (very few some years more others), but that makes "old" 28s a rare boat!

not minn, but WI. down the block from Riggs.

went for low 20s.

Oh man! My bad! Herb Brooks is probably rolling over in his grave!

Dude, i'll be rolling in MY grave for not buying that.

Come on guys... get on the podium and tell my why that boat's not worth 22.5.

I meant becuase I confused Minnesota with Wisconsin... Who knew Gophers and Badgers were mortal enemies! :D

And I agree with you on the price of that boat. I'm sometimes amazed I didn't buy it and very amazed that it took as long as it did to sell. I think Scott sold it bare pretty quickly though. What every happened to it? Did it get re-rigged, or did it go to the great "To-Do List" in the sky?

What ever happend to that boat last I read on here was the person who bought it took the motors out and the drives off for another boat.

B-rad, that was Scott. Took the power/drives for his Saber and sold the boat. Wondering what happened to it as well.

seemed to me the boat was a good set up to begin with. Alot of work taking out motors and drives and swaping to another boat.

thats cuz you don't know 'No Excuses'.
NE deserved the drives, but more power. (sorry scottie)

You never see that many older 28s around.

My two cents for what it is worth...when the first 28TS comes out of the mould, which should be soon, the price is going to be much different than the current v bottoms, due to demand. In my mind this could stabilize the cost for the older conventional hulls. Again, my two cents. Is it that I'm bias because I'm selling my conventional hull?

That's all gonna depend on how well it performs. :cool-smiley-027:

Question though, how long after the new TS is available will you still be able to get the old style?

I'd say the answer to that is up to Pantera. I don't really know how easy it is to remove the blocks from the mould to produce a conventional hulled boat and then replace them for the TS version.

If the TS is successful, I'd say the demand for the conventional hull would decrease. Although the value of the old hull would depend on supply and demand. It could stabilize the value or reduce it drastically. I guess we'll see.

Care to buy a conventional hulled Pantera 28? :-)

IMO, they will always sell the straight 28.
They shelved the 24 2yrs ago....:rolleyes:

As I understood it from Jo is they were going to keep the old 28 for twin applications.

What does TS stand for?

Twin Step????

Damn Andy! You ARE old school! :D

so you think they wont build a twin sbc TS?
aka: tsbcts or tstsbc :evilb:

We delivered a couple of new 24s in the last 4-5 months and still offer the 24' model. Our plans are for now to run the new twin stepped bottom with a single engine application and if a customer wants a twin engine the insert can be removed from the mold.

We will offer the 28' model with a twin stepped or as a full 24 degree deep v.I think when most customers looking for a new single engine 28' see the increase in performance from the new bottom they will not opt for the full 24 degree deep v version.

JO

The hull & trailer went south to Hialeah & will be sporting single power...

The Motors are sitting here in my shop with a deposit on them & will be heading to Tempe Arizona in a couple weeks to go in a 29 Mirage....

The drives are resting quietly in my garage....

& yeah I agree it is a bit of work but its the only way I can even think of playing in this game !! I function on a second rate budget with first class taste !! Which can make for interesting projects & long hours at times.....

I agree & thats one reason those small blocks will not end up in the boat... They are great motors but I just want more power than what they make & didn't have the extra 10-12k (labor not incl.) laying around to make them achieve the power I would like for them to have made...

The Pantera ran & handled Great with the twin small blocks in it... I ran the boat for the most part of last summer & had a blast in it !! I ran the boat in 3-4 footers wide open when I test drove it & it handled like a dream & was balanced Great !!
If I had not already had the Saber I would have no doubt kept the boat & you guys would be have probably already seen a few in progress pics of it getting a complete work over.

When it comes to the 28 Pantera it doesn't matter whether it is a Single BBC , Twin SBC's , or Twin BBC's , Conventional V or the new T/S You won't be going wrong because they are all great boats & are built with a ton of Care & Quality !! But I think we will all agree about that one....

Scott, where'd the Pantera end up? Status update or willing to put odds on whether she ever goes back in the water?

It went to Hialeah FL & if I was betting I would have to lean towards it ending up wet. It went to a great guy who comes from family who loves classic offshores.

Anyone we know???

Cool! I hate to see these things become planters! :D

My boat
http://www.islandpirates.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=1450


I must respectfully disagree, have you priced a new Pantera?
Have you checked the blue book prices on this boat?
I have had a lot of interest in this boat, and several
offers to trade it, I haven't found the trade I am looking for yet.

Danger Kittys boat is a great boat as are all Pantera's, but it is 2 years older.

Sounds like you have a budget and you don't want to spend more than that
which is fine for you but don't trash boats out of your price range.
Every one wants a newer Pantera but they want it at a ridiculously low price.

If you ask me the Pantera's are priced too low compared to other boats on the market.
I.E. Powerboat mag did an article last year on a a 26' Baja with a 525hp motor.
MSRP Price? Approximately 170K......YIKES!
IMO It won't cut the rough stuff as well as a Pantera will.

There is a 2001 Pantera listed in the classifieds for 60K,
so asking 78K for my 3 year newer 2004 for is "way to much"?

BTW, I don't NEED to sell it and if I don't then I will happily
boat again this summer in an excellent riding, turn key,
cost effective single engine, custom built boat that none
of my friends has.:D

That is my .002 cent worth.....The art of the deal……
You don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate!

Ron
[email protected]

It's actually in Homestead Florida just south of Miami. I saw it a couple of months ago when I went to go look at another boat. The owner lurks here on the site.. real nice family.

Anybody see the 2007 28 pantera listed in boattrader. Single 650hp for $99K http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/9/5/91631895.htm

Looks like a good deal. I kicked the tires just to see what he paid for it new............$140K. The owner is a really nice guy.

Wild Thing - I agree.......mostly because its a twin and not a single, but thats just a preference and I'm sure a lot of buyers will disagree if they prefer the single.

That 2007 is Talon25's boat and it is about as nice a 28' Pantera there is. And yes, he is a nice guy.

Wild Thing is/has a single 496HO.

Talon25 Is definitely a top notch guy, and his boat is beautiful. Whoever buys it is going to have a great buy!

actually.. Morgan is very nice and his boat is sweet:evilb:

Just wondering if it was at your house:D

Welllll...... ##$@ :angry-smiley-038: My bad.

good luck w/ all your boat sales gentleman.
its a tough arse market.

rob...
not buyin or sellin...

Sorry Rob - I though WildThings boat was a twin set up.

I agree.

WildThing - yes your pantera is probobly worth that much, but just about every 28 I've seen listed above $50K has a REAL hard time selling.

Thank you for the kind words saying I'm a nice guy and all, I try really hard to be a bad azz but it's just not working.

I put my 2007 28 up for sale. She is pretty much a trailer queen that sits in my garage. Boat is in perfect condition, Jo and Pepe hit the set up just right, she fly's straight and flat through the rough stuff and is a true 80 mph boat with my 650 hp Boyds Motorworks engine. Spent most of it's 90 hours up on Lake George NY. with an occasonally run the river or the Long Island Sound .

The boat was built with a blower motor in mind, the boost and pyro gauges are already wired in the dash ready to go real fast.

The tri-color interior was upgraded to a better quility material and it has all stainless harware with the nice single lever spring loaded dropout bolsters. No Powder coat bs to ware off, just polish the stainless and aluminum on this boat. The trailer is a Myco welded aluminum with all the upgrades.

I put the best of everything I could afford in her and planned to keep her forever but sometimes life throws you a little curve and you have to change the master plan a little bit.

For all you motorheads and riggers out there, if anyone of you want this brand new boat LESS the power let me know and will pull mine out and give you a REAL GOOD DEAL.

Thanks
Morgan
845 494 4716

I bought a Apache 28 Brave for a good Price, I could not find a 28 Pantera that I liked for the right price, so I bought the Apache, it needs some work but it will make due for now. Good luck selling your boat Morgan, it looks great.