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fantastixvoyage 09-09-2010 10:59 AM

24' Race edition pics needed
 
Curious to see how the raceboats have been laid out in the past. Dash, interior, rigging, etc. all is welcome.


Also anyone run both 3man standup and sitdown 24's??? Curious to the pros and cons of each. Not a big fan of the old school, waist high freeboard while standing. Considering making it a sitdown with two race bolsters.

fantastixvoyage 09-09-2010 11:00 AM

Is the 3 man with low freeboard done for safety reasons???

onesickpantera 09-09-2010 12:48 PM

I "converted" my seats to strictly sit-downs. I lowered the entire seats 4" and the seat bottoms another 7". So I now sit 11" lower than the original bolsters. They look a little strange with the seat bottoms that low but you are really wrapped in the seat now. It's "function over form". No way I would stand up and drive a 24.

fantastixvoyage 09-09-2010 12:54 PM

That's kind of my thoughts but I know it was the way to go back in the day. Never saw them race so I'm a bit "new" school and dont see the point in standing in a boat that only comes up to my waist.

Sure as hell not hitting anything on the way out if ya hook. That is the only reason I could see running it this way.

rchevelle71 09-09-2010 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 3203509)
I "converted" my seats to strictly sit-downs. I lowered the entire seats 4" and the seat bottoms another 7". So I now sit 11" lower than the original bolsters. They look a little strange with the seat bottoms that low but you are really wrapped in the seat now. It's "function over form". No way I would stand up and drive a 24.

Sounds about like mine.

fantastixvoyage 09-09-2010 03:18 PM

Could you guys take a quick measurment from the floor to the top of the freeboard? Not too familiar with these 24 and not sure if the standup race versions were built any differently than the pleasure models. Dash is obviously way different but curious if there's a drastic difference for the seat height.

onesickpantera 09-09-2010 03:57 PM

I can when I get home. I can tell you that the top of the seat bottom from the factory was at 25".

Jo would be able to answer if they were built differently.

onesickpantera 09-09-2010 04:51 PM

By the wheel I am about 32" from the floor to the gunwale and 38" to the windscreen.

Also, I need to correct my earlier post. I lowered the seat bottoms 9", not 11". They were 25" from the floor and now they are 16".

lowblue320 09-09-2010 04:52 PM

Also anyone run both 3man standup and sitdown 24's??? Curious to the pros and cons of each. Not a big fan of the old school, waist high freeboard while standing. Considering making it a sitdown with two race bolsters.[/QUOTE]


I have had 2 24 Pantera and if I had another I would make it a sit down for sure. I believe that it's a better feel and also you look more proportioned. Look at onesickpantera's avatar and you will see what I mean.

onesickpantera 09-09-2010 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by lowblue320 (Post 3203723)
I have had 2 24 Pantera and if I had another I would make it a sit down for sure. I believe that it's a better feel and also you look more proportioned. Look at onesickpantera's avatar and you will see what I mean.

Yep, I agree and that pic in the avatar was the "GEN 1" mod. LOL The seats were only 4" lower then.

Here's a pic with the new seating.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...Torch82010.jpg

fantastixvoyage 09-10-2010 09:06 AM

Looks like mine floor to top of the side gunwale is 33" Appears a sit down is possible, but the angle of the dash would be way off. This might have to be a winter project to figure out whats best.

Still cant get over the odd feeling of standing in a boat thats only waist high. Feel like I'm gonna fall out even will its sitting on the trailer :lolhit:

mikeb4 09-10-2010 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by fantastixvoyage (Post 3204221)
Appears a sit down is possible, but the angle of the dash would be way off.

I used the angled bezels on the port instruments to improve the visibility and viewing angle from the drivers position .... on my 28 Cig the speedo and other instruments were on those old skool aluminum tube elbows to raise the instruments 90 degrees from the dash panel. I can post pics tonight ...

SkaterMike82 09-11-2010 07:47 AM

I love the setup I did on mine. Two sit-down race bolsters with a console in the middle. I didn't raise the floor as I put the seats on 7 1/2 inches High bracket. I can see perfect and the boat looks really slick. the console is 15 inchess high, 14 inches wide and 44 inches long. If you have any question let ms know good luck

fantastixvoyage 09-11-2010 09:44 AM

I welcome any and all pics. Heading to the shop now to see what the heck I ended up with :eek:

Either post here or email [email protected]

SkaterMike82 09-11-2010 11:36 AM

http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forum...t=17254&page=5. This is with the race fairing

JO - PANTERABOATS 09-11-2010 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by fantastixvoyage (Post 3204221)
Looks like mine floor to top of the side gunwale is 33" Appears a sit down is possible, but the angle of the dash would be way off. This might have to be a winter project to figure out whats best.

Still cant get over the odd feeling of standing in a boat thats only waist high. Feel like I'm gonna fall out even will its sitting on the trailer :lolhit:

???,
Raced many 24's that way w/o any problems and I am 5' 11"
Hell I went from Miami to New York in a 24' standing up and felt fine.
If you are 6'5" and stand straight up you definetely have a problem BUT even if you lay back against the bolster its much better.
pepe.
PS, Remember that there were many 27' and 28' Magnums and 28' Cigarettes w/ the low freeboard. Nobody complained.
Back then racing sitting down in a boat used to be a no-no!

OCCJoe 09-11-2010 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by Premier Perf (Post 3205043)

Would love to see pic's of your boat but don't want to get another membership to see them !

jfm 09-11-2010 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by OCCJoe (Post 3205452)
Would love to see pic's of your boat but don't want to get another membership to see them !

it is worth it! nice work!

mikeb4 09-12-2010 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeb4 (Post 3204490)
I used the angled bezels on the port instruments to improve the visibility and viewing angle from the drivers position .... on my 28 Cig the speedo and other instruments were on those old skool aluminum tube elbows to raise the instruments 90 degrees from the dash panel. I can post pics tonight ...

OK here is how the old Cig's deal with horizontal instrument mounting surfaces (pods). And here is what I did on my Pantera to angle the Port instruments towards the driver position on the Starboard side before - after. Just a couple ideas .... :eureka:

JAIME 09-12-2010 10:10 AM

looks good, where did you get the angled rings from. think i might want some. thanks

SkaterMike82 09-12-2010 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by jfm (Post 3205457)
it is worth it! nice work!

Thanks

mikeb4 09-13-2010 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by JAIME (Post 3205627)
looks good, where did you get the angled rings from. think i might want some. thanks

Here you go .... http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/bezels.htm

Caution .... they are a PITA to install because you have to oblong out the holes so the instruments can angle in that direction, and recut the bracket arm on the shallow side. Lot's of hole saw & sawzall drama! :crazy:

JAIME 10-04-2010 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by fantastixvoyage (Post 3204994)
I welcome any and all pics. Heading to the shop now to see what the heck I ended up with :eek:

Either post here or email [email protected]

what did you buy, any pictures?


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