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scarab63 12-04-2011 04:48 PM

Ballast tank ??
 
My 24 im building has a ballast tank that I plan to use.
Whats the best way to fill it ?

I was originally thinking of T ing off my sea pump plumbing a hose within reach of me while im running the boat, and having a ball valve to open and close to let water in.
Then just a bilge pump in the ballast tank to jettison the water when needed.

A friend suggested a 2stage sea pump in fear of starving the motor for cooling water when running hard and filling the tank.

Im not sure how long this tank will take to fill via sea pump T or if using my stock sea pump is a good idea or not??

If I can avoid the cost of the 2 stage id like to.

Thoughts??? Other ideas ???

Mike

JAIME 12-05-2011 12:32 AM

nice project, how many gal is it and what kind of hp do you plan on running?

paul buckner 12-05-2011 01:19 AM

Hi scarab62 . One way to fill a ballest tank is from a s/s pickup pipe on the transom and a 3 position lever in the boat , fill /close /dump .this will be a self drain . nothing to go wrong , we sell them over hear in the uk , iam sure you can buy the kit in the states. regards paul

scarab63 12-05-2011 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by JAIME (Post 3564467)
nice project, how many gal is it and what kind of hp do you plan on running?

Idk tank capacity.... 20 gal maybe????

525 blower motor for now. Ultimately when the projects over with im going to shoot for 650.

High x with a xr/imco prob turning a 4b

scarab63 12-05-2011 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by paul buckner (Post 3564482)
Hi scarab62 . One way to fill a ballest tank is from a s/s pickup pipe on the transom and a 3 position lever in the boat , fill /close /dump .this will be a self drain . nothing to go wrong , we sell them over hear in the uk , iam sure you can buy the kit in the states. regards paul

Paul are these just gravity / water psi activated???

onesickpantera 12-05-2011 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by paul buckner (Post 3564482)
Hi scarab62 . One way to fill a ballest tank is from a s/s pickup pipe on the transom and a 3 position lever in the boat , fill /close /dump .this will be a self drain . nothing to go wrong , we sell them over hear in the uk , iam sure you can buy the kit in the states. regards paul

I was going to also recommend a transom water pickup. I also remember seeing a pickup on a race boat that was hooked to the K-plane. You would just open a valve to let water in the ballast tank. Not sure how the dump valves work.

Where is your ballast tank located?

scarab63 12-05-2011 07:51 AM

Ballast tank way up front glassed in. dont think gravity would fill it much unless the boats underway using water psi to force it.

One of the k planes has a sm hole drilled... Maybe an old pickup??

88bullet 12-05-2011 10:02 AM

CIG92 has a velocity that fills from a trim tab. bury the tab when your running and it fills very fast. send him a pm he can give you all the details on how it fills and emptys out

paul buckner 12-05-2011 10:29 AM

That is another way of doing it as Bullet says ,water presure fills it up very fast .there is norm an over flow fitting at the side from the top of the tank for when the tank is full , just about every ski boat here in the uk has one like this .and gravaty drain which works of a three way valve .pipe size is norm 0ne inch bore. regards paul

scarab63 12-05-2011 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by 88bullet (Post 3564645)
CIG92 has a velocity that fills from a trim tab. bury the tab when your running and it fills very fast. send him a pm he can give you all the details on how it fills and emptys out

Will do. Thx

scarab63 12-05-2011 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by paul buckner (Post 3564673)
That is another way of doing it as Bullet says ,water presure fills it up very fast .there is norm an over flow fitting at the side from the top of the tank for when the tank is full , just about every ski boat here in the uk has one like this .and gravaty drain which works of a three way valve .pipe size is norm 0ne inch bore. regards paul

Paul I took a look where you advised and did a search keying ” ballast ” with no luck!!!!

I did get side tracked looking at ribs, and reading petrol...cheers....cheerio.....kilometers..... What are you guys talking about??:lolhit:

Mike

paul buckner 12-06-2011 01:17 AM

Hi Mike go to the (Technical Question & A section ) its the first page ,14 posts down , water pickup Question. . As for wot are they talking about Q some times i dont even understand wot they are talking about ,tell me where you read it and i will see if i can translate for you LOL regards paul

scarab63 12-06-2011 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by paul buckner (Post 3565232)
Hi Mike go to the (Technical Question & A section ) its the first page ,14 posts down , water pickup Question. . As for wot are they talking about Q some times i dont even understand wot they are talking about ,tell me where you read it and i will see if i can translate for you LOL regards paul

Wow... This just galvanizes my retardedness!!!
I was looking on page 14!!!!! For anybody else its boatmaddotcom.

Like a brit oso. Very intetesting, never been before
Thanks P

c_deezy 12-06-2011 04:53 AM

Wicked Won also had a fitting on the k-plane to fill the ballast tank(s).

RunninHotRacing163.1 12-06-2011 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3565251)
Wow... This just galvanizes my retardedness!!!I was looking on page 14!!!!! For anybody else its boatmaddotcom.

Like a brit oso. Very intetesting, never been before
Thanks P

say no more :lolhit:




ROCK ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:coolcowboy:
ITS A SKATER NATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:drink:

paul buckner 12-06-2011 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3564969)
Paul I took a look where you advised and did a search keying ” ballast ” with no luck!!!!

I did get side tracked looking at ribs, and reading petrol...cheers....cheerio.....kilometers..... What are you guys talking about??:lolhit:

Mike

Translation for ya . GAS ,THANKS .GOODBUY . DISTANCE

scarab63 12-06-2011 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by paul buckner (Post 3565363)
Translation for ya . GAS ,THANKS .GOODBUY . DISTANCE

:lolhit:

Found it so now I can fill it using just water psi while underway.
But still thinking ill need a bilge pump to pump out.
It doesnt have a bottom / gravity drain.

Thanks all.

Mike

JAIME 02-06-2012 11:52 PM

just curious if you figured out a way to go with your tank. Also any of you other guys with 500+ hp adding weight to the front of your 24, ballast or lead. JAime

scarab63 02-07-2012 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by JAIME (Post 3611390)
just curious if you figured out a way to go with your tank. Also any of you other guys with 500+ hp adding weight to the front of your 24, ballast or lead. JAime

Nothing yet. Ill most likely be going with a sm pickup coming off the tab to fill it using psi. Bilge pump to dump.

c_deezy 06-22-2012 07:14 AM

Just curious what the final solution was/is going to be?

Would water pressure alone force water out of a bilge pump outlet, past the bilge pump once the tank filled up? Or would you need a seperate overflow? You would need a breather hose anyhow, so I suppose the breather would double as the overflow....


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