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SHAWNA 02-20-2013 09:00 AM

Enough room for a Borg Trans?
 
I have a 330 TRS with a Merctrans II in my 1980 24 Sport. Is there enough room between the transom and the liner/firewall to move the motor ahead so I can switch to a Borg Warner trany? Has anyone done this, and what handling charisteristics change with the weight distribution change?
Pepe or Jo?

seaman 02-20-2013 09:14 AM

the borg warner will move your motor 6 inches forward

OCCJoe 02-20-2013 11:35 AM

For what. Reason do you want to switch

SHAWNA 02-20-2013 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by OCCJoe (Post 3871432)
For what. Reason do you want to switch

I'm concerned that the horsepower I want to throw at it, will burn up the merctrans.

88bullet 02-20-2013 02:55 PM

crash box..... never break

slpcamaross97 02-20-2013 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by 88bullet (Post 3871562)
crash box..... never break

Where would you found info or parts for one?

OCCJoe 02-20-2013 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by SHAWNA (Post 3871520)
I'm concerned that the horsepower I want to throw at it, will burn up the merctrans.


I've got a fresh rebuilt Merc2 beefed up with heavy duty clutches has not been back in boat sense rebuilt .. $900

scarab63 02-20-2013 05:01 PM

What's the plan for power?

SHAWNA 02-20-2013 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3871631)
What's the plan for power?

Right around 550hp. Anything above that I would start to worry about the TRS.

OCCJoe 02-20-2013 06:58 PM

There's people that have run 700-1000hp through TRS's without failure , I had 565hp in it's stock configuration without failure .

SHAWNA 02-20-2013 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by OCCJoe (Post 3871701)
There's people that have run 700-1000hp through TRS's without failure , I had 565hp in it's stock configuration without failure .

That's an awful lot of ponies for a TRS. I would still like to know how a Borg big block set up in a 24 Pantera handles compared to a Merctrans set-up. I have a little more up my sleeve.....

There must be someone out there who is running a Borg?

OCCJoe 02-20-2013 07:22 PM

Option 2 , I have a BAM 1350 I would like to sell also . I don't know of any Pantera owners that have run the Borg . You should broaden your request to general discussion and maybe 30 and under singles

88bullet 02-20-2013 07:34 PM

JAIME has a crashbox in his 24. maybe we can get him to chime in. im thinking his boat might be set up pretty good


kyle these are crash-boxes. you will NEVER break one of these in a 24 http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o49542-en.html

bigboat28 02-20-2013 09:21 PM

I have to Borgs in my 28, I know it is not a 24 though but what is the difference in engine compartment size other than beam being smaller.

JAIME 02-20-2013 11:53 PM

With the crash box i have to kill engine to switch gears, then start. Timing is everything, i would only suggest it if u were gonna race it.JAIME

scarab63 02-21-2013 06:03 AM

Just buy a spare & see how long it takes to melt yours! $.02
Will be like a new boat to you with +200hp...cool!

CIG3 02-21-2013 09:26 AM

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If your looking at 550HP range you will be fone with the Merc 2 setup. First off moving the CG forward is not advised on your 24'. Second you will have all kinds of servicing issues as the motor will be an inch from the bulkhead depending on your accessoies.

Check out this site for info. on your transmissions. I had them do mine when I raced my 28' Cigarette with 500HP and never had an issue. They are still in the boat today with the new owner.

http://www.kcmarinetr.com

SHAWNA 02-22-2013 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by OCCJoe (Post 3871573)
I've got a fresh rebuilt Merc2 beefed up with heavy duty clutches has not been back in boat sense rebuilt .. $900

Did you have KC Marine do your re-build by any chance?

OCCJoe 02-22-2013 12:57 PM

I ordered all the parts from them and had my transmission builder do it . I spent about 700-800 on the rebuild and there was nothing wrong with it to begin with . I was going to put 800hp to it so I figured it should be fresh

JAIME 02-22-2013 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by SHAWNA (Post 3871340)
I have a 330 TRS with a Merctrans II in my 1980 24 Sport. Is there enough room between the transom and the liner/firewall to move the motor ahead so I can switch to a Borg Warner trany? Has anyone done this, and what handling charisteristics change with the weight distribution change?
Pepe or Jo?

with the motor moved forward and ssm3, my boat handles fine. I think i have more room under the hatch though.


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