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LakeShakeFever 09-03-2015 08:35 PM

#6 Drive
 
Has anyone put a #6 drive on a single engine 28. I found a good price on a complete set up. I will be putting it behind a 900sc.
Thanks,
Kris

mickeymcclgn 09-03-2015 09:38 PM

There have been afew with 3s and 3As, i know of 3 that were done with 4s and 5s (some say they were 4s some
Said 5 they both had the big shaft lowers so I'm gonna call them 5s) but no one has rigged any with a 6 I don't believe. With the transmission and the blower you're going to be very close to the bulkhead with the pulley. Cut a port hole in to change the belt or pulley!

johnmiffco 09-03-2015 10:34 PM

not to mention the heavier transom

OCCJoe 09-03-2015 11:03 PM

If a 28 can handle twins I'm sure it will do fine with the weight of a six setup

BIGSLOW 09-04-2015 08:47 AM

I think I read on here sometime ago about a Checkmate ordered from the factory with a single number 6 hanging off the back? There was a thread on here with a picture of it. I believe his name was Check300 on here.

tomcei 09-04-2015 09:42 AM

Don't forget about the setup that Kirt ( I believe that's his name) had on his. Gangster pwr with a konrad and trans. That is the build that spooked me from a trans and #6 and I decided to go SCX and keep the prop in the same location. Search it up.

johnmiffco 09-04-2015 11:41 AM

yes can put on 6 and do the r&d to get set up to work
but like above scx ,,,extreme theres cases that will handle way above the hp ur wanting to use
and with a single 28 want everything light as possible for performance
and when airborne over rollers cg is better with single set up right than twins on a 28
but when add the tranny inside and double the weight behind transom ,,,
kinda defeats the purpose of the better handling single
saw on FB a complete imco -3 extreme drive for 7,500
I have a bud with trip 42 with 1350s on them drives and not breaking them

onesickpantera 09-04-2015 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by OCCJoe (Post 4351133)
If a 28 can handle twins I'm sure it will do fine with the weight of a six setup

X2, bulletproof drive and 900hp would be a great package!

onesickpantera 09-04-2015 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by tomcei (Post 4351264)
Don't forget about the setup that Kirt ( I believe that's his name) had on his. Gangster pwr with a konrad and trans. That is the build that spooked me from a trans and #6 and I decided to go SCX and keep the prop in the same location. Search it up.

That was Kirk's boat and I remember he never did get it dialed in. Unfortunately, all his posts have vanished from this site for some reason.

Unlimited jd 09-04-2015 04:09 PM

Neither did Artie, but the Konrad puts the trans in the extension box, so the drive, and the engine are back further. Artie's was compounded by the fact he moved the fuel tank back

tomcei 09-04-2015 05:16 PM

Anything can be tweaked over time to work, but you need to decide how bad you want it. I promise you the money and time spent on new territory sometimes just isn't worth it. Of course hind-site is always 20/20.

PARASAIL941 09-04-2015 08:01 PM

Tunnel Vision ran strong with a 800 Hawk and a #4 SSM on a box. I did remember hearing it swapped ends a couple times , but these guys usually ran it on the edge.
This is a link to the VA Bch race in '92 . Thats Art Lilly in the black Fountain , I finished fourth with Bob Teague at the helm of my 28 Magnum ( my first race).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbH9Qdp7C8w

OCCJoe 09-04-2015 08:02 PM

I just don't really think a number 6 is the best way to go since the SCX came out . There's SCX's out there handling 1250hp . $15,000 ... Less money , Less weight , Less moving parts , Less power robbing .....WIN WIN WIN and WIN !

johnmiffco 09-04-2015 08:47 PM

yea lots of the 27/28' boats were derived from that magnum hull
that boat was riding just as I was trying to describe perfect cg for a single 28
the fountain was bow heavy beating up drivers and hull as magnum was just slicing
the #6 drive as stated heavier,ect and slower than #5,4,3s just handles big ger power than u using
give it a try and do all the refabing of complete transom and motor hatch area and dial in
or use what works and has been proven on these 28s
extra transom weight adds to more bow ballast to compensate
which again defeats purpose of single over twin

PARASAIL941 09-04-2015 09:17 PM

^^^ The boat in the video is the 28 Pantera , not my Magnum . ^^^

johnmiffco 09-04-2015 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by PARASAIL941 (Post 4351503)
^^^ The boat in the video is the 28 Pantera , not my Magnum . ^^^

as stated was riding perfect in race conditions,,,,
wheather magnum,pantera,excalibur,activator,ect

mickeymcclgn 09-04-2015 10:11 PM

Anyone else excited to see some action in the pantera forum again? I think if you can get the 6 with the transom assembly for the right price go for it. As someone said before might want to talk to check300 as he surprisingly set his pro shaft at 3 ish below the bottom after trying it above the bottom and even with the bottom. It's a different brand boat but still a single in the 28-30' range.

Only downfall I personally see with a scx is they want you to shift at 1000 rpm max, if you have some legit hp getting it to idle 900-1000 and shifting is gonna be a pain in the butt. Where as with a transmission shifting it 12-1400rpm no issues.

Surprisingly tunnel visions prop shaft was even with the bottom of the boat and always seemed to run well. I had heard it ran mid to upper 80s with 800. Getting on plane they had to use compressed air to ventilate the prop.

tomcei 09-08-2015 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by mickeymcclgn (Post 4351513)
Anyone else excited to see some action in the pantera forum again? I think if you can get the 6 with the transom assembly for the right price go for it. As someone said before might want to talk to check300 as he surprisingly set his pro shaft at 3 ish below the bottom after trying it above the bottom and even with the bottom. It's a different brand boat but still a single in the 28-30' range.

Only downfall I personally see with a scx is they want you to shift at 1000 rpm max, if you have some legit hp getting it to idle 900-1000 and shifting is gonna be a pain in the butt. Where as with a transmission shifting it 12-1400rpm no issues.

Surprisingly tunnel visions prop shaft was even with the bottom of the boat and always seemed to run well. I had heard it ran mid to upper 80s with 800. Getting on plane they had to use compressed air to ventilate the prop.

If you are using a blower to reach those pwr #'s then you can usually shift with the blower roll unless you tune it totally out.

I'm surprised with the shaft level with the bottom it would even get on plane with out blowing out. Do you know what prop they were running?

mickeymcclgn 09-08-2015 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by tomcei (Post 4352251)
If you are using a blower to reach those pwr #'s then you can usually shift with the blower roll unless you tune it totally out.

I'm surprised with the shaft level with the bottom it would even get on plane with out blowing out. Do you know what prop they were running?

they ran a 16.75 diameter 26P 4 blade on the boat, they actually used compressed air to ventilate the prop to get the engine spinning then feathered the throttle 4000ish till it laid over. Wasn't the easiest to get on plane but it would go.

LakeShakeFever 09-10-2015 12:32 AM

Thanks for all the info. By the time I buy the setup, the money to rig the boat and the r&d, it almost seems like it's not worth it. A bravo based drive is proven to work and that makes me not want to venture into uncharted territory. I'm definitely not wanting to loose speed. It's hard enough to squeeze every MPH out of this boat.

tomcei 09-14-2015 09:18 AM

I believe you will be better off that way. With a Pantera it's all about how well you run fast...not..How fast you can run.


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