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Dock Rat 11-28-2003 06:30 PM

Fair price for a 2001 Pantera 28 Single?
 
What's a fair price for this boat?

2001 28 single 40 hrs
500EFI Engine is blown- NEEDS SHORTBLOCK,
XZ drive 1.50 ratio
Mayfair single ram full hydraulic
280S K Planes
Whipplecharger
Myco tandem axle
High end stereo
Swim Platform

Thanks in advance!

RHICKOFF 11-28-2003 08:46 PM

Are you looking at Duckys 28 Pantera?

RHICKOFF 11-28-2003 10:01 PM

Here is one with a 500hp.
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/0/0/60378500.htm

BJM 11-29-2003 12:26 PM

Don't ever but anything from Ducky's(Shady people)

Dock Rat 11-29-2003 01:00 PM

Yes, it's at Ducky's.
I was going to keep it anonomus to be objective. Apparently boat was idling at the dock in neutral and owners kid slipped while boarding carrying a cooler. Somehow the throttle was pushed wide open and the motor over-revved and blew the head gasket. It was toward the end of last season so the owner traded the boat on a new 38 Fountain with 575 Sci's.

Ducky's pulled the heads and intake off and then the boat sat outside over the winter under a tarp. During this time the cylinder bores rusted pretty badly. The bottom end clearly needs to be overbored and rebuilt.

So, what do you think it's worth?

RHICKOFF 11-29-2003 01:28 PM

I'd guess around $70,000 with a 500hp including trailer. I ran with the previous owner and that's exactly what happened to it. If you want some picture of it when it was new including interior and motor pics let me know. If I had my choice buy the 2004 27' Fountain that he has for $72,000

RHICKOFF 11-29-2003 01:34 PM

Ducky's isn't shady. You have to know the boat. Beware of current prices and ask about previous owners. A boat like the Pantera everyone in the area has seen it. Also I've seen Dealers who took a trade, never paid off the loan and then never sent the title for the new boat. leaving a loan for two boats. Neither of which you own.

RHICKOFF 11-29-2003 01:40 PM

I'd guess around $70,000 with a 500hp including trailer. I ran with the previous owner and that's exactly what happened to it. If you want some picture of it when it was new including interior and motor pics let me know. If I had my choice buy the 2004 27' Fountain that he has for $72,000

BRUCE SEROFF 11-29-2003 02:51 PM

A 27 Fountain could never keep up with the Pantera in big water.

2001 Pantera with a blown motor incl. Trailer. offer them 55k. But why would you need a short block for a blown head gasket??? Dont the 500 hps have rev limiters???

RHICKOFF 11-29-2003 04:24 PM

That motor had more than a blown head gasket and your are correct a 27' Fountain will never run with a 28' Pantera. However, it really depends on where you are going to go boating.

Dock Rat 11-29-2003 05:27 PM

Yes, I've known the boat since day one. I saw it before the original owner took delivery (at Ducky's) and always loved it. Ducky's people seem nice enough, and they always have a great selection of offshore stuff for this area. It's real convienient because they are only a couple miles from home.

I offered $60K for the Pantera last fall, then again a month ago and they turned it down both times. Maybe I'll give it another shot after the first snow storm and see what happens :). They are asking $75K as is or $89K w/ a brand new 500EFI but w/o the Whipplecharger. It is a sweet boat for sure....

Thanks for the info!

BRUCE SEROFF 11-29-2003 06:10 PM

Im surprised they were willing to sit on it for over a year. By the time they do sell it, it will be worth 5k less and in worse shape. Someone should make a deal on this thing. I hate to see a good boat go to waste. Are there any pics of this boat???

B-Stubb 11-29-2003 08:09 PM

too much money its worth 45 with bad motor on a good day

RHICKOFF 11-30-2003 07:28 AM

Not only that but check out the RETAIL prices on a new 28' Pantera. www.panteraboats.com

RHICKOFF 11-30-2003 07:55 AM

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105mph_38_2003 11-30-2003 09:09 AM

For $90k you can custom build a 2004 with a 525 efi brand new...Run away from this deal because you have been more than generous with these people. Call Jo and work a deal with him. You will have a brand new boat for about the same price...

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Griff 11-30-2003 02:44 PM

That asking price of 89k with a new 500EFI is nuts. Von Bongo's asking price for his 2003 with a 575SC, XR w/ITS, and about 40 hrs, not to mention the awesome paint job and Myco tailer was 93k.

You could have Pantera build your own 2004 for very close to 89k with a 500EFI.

RHICKOFF 11-30-2003 04:08 PM

Exactly

RHICKOFF 11-30-2003 04:10 PM

Griff, Did you buy your boat from a guy from Ocean City?

RHICKOFF 11-30-2003 04:20 PM

I'm pretty sure that your boat came from Duck's. That was a awesome price for that boat too.

scarabman 11-30-2003 04:55 PM

Duckys is shady! I bought a new boat from them and had all sorts of issues that they caused and I never got relief on. They are nice people. They smiled the whole time. Check with Jo and Pepe. As I recall they are no longer doing business with Duckys. Wonder why? I know.

RHICKOFF 11-30-2003 06:11 PM

Actually I believe that they are not selling to dealers.

Dock Rat 11-30-2003 08:51 PM

RHICKOFF,
Thanks for posting the pics. BTW, are you the guy with the blue and white Velocity 390 with 575Sci's that is always at lake Raystown?

Griff 11-30-2003 11:16 PM


Originally posted by RHICKOFF
Griff, Did you buy your boat from a guy from Ocean City?
Yes, I bought it from OSO member Hot Duck. I believe he bought it from Ducky's about 2 years before I bought it from him.

RHICKOFF 12-01-2003 07:02 AM

Dock Rat, The guy with the 39' Velocity used to own the 24' HTM. I think that he bought his boat from All Pro Marine.

MIAMIBOYZ 12-01-2003 08:51 AM

I HAVE TWO FRESH 540`S DYNOED AT 647HP EACH, THAT WOULD MAKE THAT BABY SCREAM FOR SALE.

BRUCE SEROFF 12-01-2003 11:07 AM

Now why didnt you tell me that 2 weeks ago????

MIAMIBOYZ 12-01-2003 11:14 AM

BRUCE
 
BRUCE THE ONE IN THE BOAT AND ONE I GOT ON FRIDAY DONE.I OFFERED THE BOAT FOR THE DEERFIELD RACE REMEMBER.YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN ME ON THAT ONE.

I HAVE A THREE MOTORS I NEED TO GET MOVING SO I CAN PUT THE NEW ONE IN THERE.:D

OPA 12-01-2003 03:26 PM

HOW MUCH FOR THE 540'S

MIAMIBOYZ 12-01-2003 03:31 PM

I JUST SOLD ONE FOR $7000.00 I WAS ASKING 8K
MERLIN 2 WITH CHEVY ALUMINUM BOWTIE HEADS
JESEL ROLLER ROCKERS JE PISTONS EAGLE RODS
COLA CRANK MERLIN INTAKE 1050 DOMINATOR
GILL 12 QT PAN A TRUE 647 ON THE DYNO AT 5300

THE OTHER MOTOR IS A GM BOWTIE BLOCK 612 CI
LUNATI 4.750 STROKE CRANK, JE 4.530 BORE, CROWER
BILLET RODS,DOOLEY PAN NOTCHED FOR THE STROKE
CLEARANCE ALOT OF MONEY ON THIS SET UP MACHINE WORK AND PARTS.SHORT BLOCK ASSEMBLY INCLUDING
THE MATCHING OIL PAN $5500.00 NO LESS.
IF SOMEONE WANTS IT ASSEMBLED TO NA OR SC
I HAVE THE INTAKE FOR A 1050 OR THE INTAKE FOR
A BLOWER SET UP.THAT IS EXTRA

OPA 12-01-2003 03:59 PM

THANKS BUT IM LOOKING FOR A MATCHED SET OF BBC'S

kitten 12-09-2003 10:12 PM

My Pantera "Dangerkitty"is for sale @ $84K 2002 650 hp Innovation
Two Covers, Spare Prop, Myco Trailer, Very Very Clean Boat all of the extras very fast for a Pantera, Call or Email Me.


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