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Old 08-16-2007, 06:01 PM
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For the first time in Powerboat P1, penalties for exceeding the maximum average speed had been imposed at the German Grand Prix.

Apparently the time penalties were not severe enough to keep teams from exceeding the speeds set forth by the rules.

For safety reasons, the organization has increased the time penalties.

Competitors exceeding the maximum average speed between 4 mph or greater will be disqualified, 2 mph and 4 mph will face a six minute penalty, and those that exceed the maximum average speed by 2 mph or less will receive a three minute penalty.


This is how I understand it to be and will go into effect at the next race August 24th- 26th, 2007.

For futher clarification please be sure to read any updates to the rule book during the course of the season.
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How do max speed penalties find there way into racing? Are they bracket racing? I don't understand Tim, why race if you get penalized to go too fast?
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Originally Posted by MOBILEMERCMAN
How do max speed penalties find there way into racing? Are they bracket racing? I don't understand Tim, why race if you get penalized to go too fast?
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Jim,

They are running several different Production hulls with many different engine manufacturers. So they run with a Power to Weight ratio and a max avg speed of 87 mph over the course of the entire race.
This way they keep it competitive and SAFE in the Evolution Class.
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Do they call it a race or a cruise show?
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Originally Posted by MOBILEMERCMAN
Do they call it a race or a cruise show?
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Jim,

At 1 of the races they were racing in 15 to 18 footers !

Keep in mind, this was the first time they also ever had to impose the penalty...
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Didn't one of the other threads say one of the boats came off plane and idled across the finish and still exceeded the average. So if you can't exceed the average than the rules must be pretty plain and simple. West Palm in 1999 was 19 footers with extra long troughs. I guess I'm too old school to try to understand. I expect trouble on the horizon with all the manufacture trying to stay ahead of the other. Maybe they should give bonus points for style.
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Originally Posted by MOBILEMERCMAN
Didn't one of the other threads say one of the boats came off plane and idled across the finish and still exceeded the average.
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They did not break out or exceed the average but because the other team was 1 minute ahead they still got the win anyway.
That won't be happening again. I felt that penalty was too weak for breaking out.
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looks like p1 is full of **** . i doin't call that racing i call it cruse show . . i really wan't to go see a 100+ mph boat go 87 . bull **** .
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and you thought our racing was bad .
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Average speed is easy to figure out from a scorers standpoint but really hard to play with from a racers stand point.

If the average is 87, it sounds like you'd want the boat to top out at about 95, but if you take the turns too fast, you'll break out and I don't think there's a GPS made that will give you average speed.

But why the speed cap? It sounds like they cap the speed by horsepower and weight. Why not let em run...
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