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SVL4 02-01-2007 08:43 AM

staggered set up.
 
What rotation is more popular on a 33 staggered?The boat at top end tends to have too much transom lift.

Thanks

Wil

ActiveFun 02-05-2007 09:35 PM

Re: staggered set up.
 
Mine doesnt have transom lift.. Is that only in the stagger?

Indy 02-06-2007 06:55 AM

Re: staggered set up.
 
I think SemperFi's boat was staggered?? Maybe he can help you.

Semper Fi 02-14-2007 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 2016954)
I think SemperFi's boat was staggered?? Maybe he can help you.

Mine was staggered (HP500's) with the props turning IN. It ran well and speed was approx. 84mph with Bravo1 drives and 3 blade 29 Mirage props. The boat did run very level.

I didn't get a chance to experiment and try the props spinning out, so sorry I can't tell you much more. I can tell you that the boat was very easy (surprisingly with props turning in) to handle around the docks.

I have been told that the boat would handle better with the props turning OUT.

Indy 02-14-2007 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Semper Fi (Post 2026574)
Mine was staggered (HP500's) with the props turning IN. It ran well and speed was approx. 84mph with Bravo1 drives and 3 blade 29 Mirage props. The boat did run very level.

I didn't get a chance to experiment and try the props spinning out, so sorry I can't tell you much more. I can tell you that the boat was very easy (surprisingly with props turning in) to handle around the docks.

I have been told that the boat would handle better with the props turning OUT.

Semper...do you have an opinion regarding 4 blade props vs. 3 blades on these boats?

Semper Fi 02-15-2007 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 2026926)
Semper...do you have an opinion regarding 4 blade props vs. 3 blades on these boats?

No, only becuase I never got a chance to play around with different props. As per my conversation with Danny Weinstein awhile ago, the boat came with 3 blades because 4 blades weren't on the market at that time.

I have also been told that the 4 blade will slow it down a "hair", but give it better control and acceleration.

Semper Fi 02-17-2007 09:59 AM

My "old" boat is for sale in the PP section here on OSO. He is asking $79K....I sold it for $75K. Boat sits on an aluminum Myco.

The Wizard 02-18-2007 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveFun (Post 2016777)
Mine doesnt have transom lift.. Is that only in the stagger?

Andrew, put a set of shorties on it and turn the props in.....nice!

The Wizard 02-18-2007 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 2026926)
Semper...do you have an opinion regarding 4 blade props vs. 3 blades on these boats?

I've had both, I did like the 4 blades better, but....only if you have big power in it. If you have 500's in it, stay with the 3 blades, it'll go faster (3+)The 4 blades give you more bite, and... you need it when your accelerating hard to get on top of the next wave, I kind of miss my V bottom....

Jassman 02-18-2007 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by The Wizard (Post 2030527)
I've had both, I did like the 4 blades better, but....only if you have big power in it. If you have 500's in it, stay with the 3 blades, it'll go faster (3+)The 4 blades give you more bite, and... you need it when your accelerating hard to get on top of the next wave, I kind of miss my V bottom....

You've been saying that 2 cat's ago:drink: Nothing like a cat for speed and stability.

The Wizard 02-19-2007 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2030660)
You've been saying that 2 cat's ago:drink: Nothing like a cat for speed and stability.

lol......Hey Jeff, your right... but i think deep inside i'm a v-bottom kind of guy.....who knows.... If i had a V bottom again, i would probably want a cat......LMAO :evilb:

Speaking of V bottoms, how that bad a*s 43 Nor-Tech?

Semper Fi 02-19-2007 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by The Wizard (Post 2031199)
lol......Hey Jeff, your right... but i think deep inside i'm a v-bottom kind of guy.....who knows.... If i had a V bottom again, i would probably want a cat......LMAO :evilb:

Speaking of V bottoms, how that bad a*s 43 Nor-Tech?

Ozzie,

Where is your old 33 PP at now?

The Wizard 02-20-2007 08:28 AM

Hey man,

How are ya? A guy from Babylon NY owns it....he takes good care of it from what i see.....

ActiveFun 02-21-2007 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by The Wizard (Post 2030527)
I've had both, I did like the 4 blades better, but....only if you have big power in it. If you have 500's in it, stay with the 3 blades, it'll go faster (3+)The 4 blades give you more bite, and... you need it when your accelerating hard to get on top of the next wave, I kind of miss my V bottom....

Oz, so you think I should have 3 blades?

Indy 02-22-2007 06:53 AM

I was thinking about 3 blades too because Mike (Lickitysplit) has some good results with them, but I'm concerned about using them in the type of water we boat in (Long Island Sound). More often then not we're out of the water and I'm concerned that the blades won't have enough "bite" upon re-entry to keep the momentum up. I know they don't get the boat on plane as well as a four blade, but I'm not concerned about that. Any thoughts anybody?

WesSmith 02-22-2007 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 2034834)
I was thinking about 3 blades too because Mike (Lickitysplit) has some good results with them, but I'm concerned about using them in the type of water we boat in (Long Island Sound). More often then not we're out of the water and I'm concerned that the blades won't have enough "bite" upon re-entry to keep the momentum up. I know they don't get the boat on plane as well as a four blade, but I'm not concerned about that. Any thoughts anybody?


Yup.....just buy my 41 Apache and you'll stay in the water ! :D

Just funnin with ya buddy !

Indy 02-22-2007 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by WesSmith (Post 2034891)
Yup.....just buy my 41 Apache and you'll stay in the water ! :D

Sure...that and 15,000hp engines will get me over 45mph too LOL!! :p

PPlay33 02-22-2007 05:43 PM

the 2 Powerplays I have run 3 blades on did not handle or ride as well as the boats did with 4 blades. The slower boat with 500's did run 83.2 gps with 3 blades vs. 82.1gps with 4 blades, but you better be good with the wheel cause it was very loose with the 3 blades. Try both if at all possible before you buy 3 blades, and in the water you normally boat in.

WesSmith 02-23-2007 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 2034919)
Sure...that and 15,000hp engines will get me over 45mph too LOL!! :p



Ouch !:evilb: :D

ActiveFun 02-24-2007 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by PPlay33 (Post 2035473)
the 2 Powerplays I have run 3 blades on did not handle or ride as well as the boats did with 4 blades. The slower boat with 500's did run 83.2 gps with 3 blades vs. 82.1gps with 4 blades, but you better be good with the wheel cause it was very loose with the 3 blades. Try both if at all possible before you buy 3 blades, and in the water you normally boat in.

Thanks. For 1 mph I dont think i'm going to make the change and give up the drivability.

jmbtile 02-24-2007 01:58 PM

hey powerplay fans, any suggestions for graphics on the 23' that was posted earlier(ac boat show). I want to remove the tribal and keep some old tradition, other than that I'm stumped. I'm new to this go fast, wicked cool looking sport.

SVL4 02-26-2007 06:11 PM

Thhanks for the responses.We tried 4 blades and the boat accelerates better and handles better.We still have the same problem as far as lift is concerned.We knew that by adding a blade we would get more stern lift but we have not tried them spinning out yet.This boat has 598 cu in. and 750 hp.The drives are very close toguether,I believe 16.25 inch from prop shaft to prop shaft.We also have 12 inch extension boxes.What is the x dimension on other staggered set ups?

We are trying to settle it on the top end.The boat runs great until about 92 and then is a handful.Although if there is a slight chop the boat tends to track straight.

Again thanks for the help.

Wil

PPlay33 02-26-2007 08:07 PM

Wil, does that boat have green upholstery? If so ,Iwas in that boat with 29 pitch 3 blades in calm water. It got pretty loose over 90. It started to chine walk, and you really had to drive it. My boat has side by side and I spin them out. The boat never seems to have too much stern lift or get loose, so it may help yours as well. Since you are in Fl. I would see what Matt and Julie at Throttle Up can help you with.Good luck!

SVL4 02-28-2007 12:24 PM

PP33,
It does have green upholstery.The boat was in Virginia.We are running 28 bravo 1 and it helped out a bit.We are going try spinning out to see if it helps out on the top end.Thanks for the info.

Wil

RumRunner 03-07-2007 04:06 PM

Will,

Check with the Muscle Guys... They had a fast one, and should be able to give you some info.

Semper Fi 03-07-2007 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by RumRunner (Post 2050022)
Will,

Check with the Muscle Guys... They had a fast one, and should be able to give you some info.

The Muscle boat rocks!!! I was with HavasuCig when he recorded it going by around 110mph in Havasu a few years ago.

RumRunner 03-07-2007 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Semper Fi (Post 2050209)
The Muscle boat rocks!!! I was with HavasuCig when he recorded it going by around 110mph in Havasu a few years ago.

Heck I think she's still forsale:p


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